cactusflyer

You guessed correctly sir!

I had no idea there was a "next leg undefined" checklist, but I gave serious consideration to calling "master caution, parking brake" every time he set the brakes, or "master caution, tank fuel low" during startup.

SurferLucas

I believe it's in Chapter 4...somewhere around page 64... (there's a nice list of FMS Message checklist in that area, that can be fun to call at random). Also, did he do fuel tracking for all flights over 1hr?

cardiomd

You are correct and the same in my experience in aviation and professional fields.

Also my experience is that the worst fellow pilots I've come across are the ones that assume all other pilots (or anybody else) are terrible at flying. It is because they found it extremely difficult themselves, and possibly were not exposed to, or able to perform, other complex things in life (mastering a musical instrument, learning a foreign language, etc.) Unfortunately there are similar characters in my field too - the guy that always tries to recite useless irrelevant facts but is terrible with a scalpel.

prex8390

I feel like this is starting to become a regular trend for me but crew members that throw little kid tantrums when the hotel van isn't immediately outside when we walk out.

It's really embarrassing to be standing outside with a crew member throwing a fit becuase we have been out there all of 2 minutes and you've decided to call the hotel twice and cuss out the poor desk clerk about the whereabouts of his van and call him a liar saying he would be there. And then continue to Vent and steam in front of passengers also at the curb. It reflects poorly on us.

I get it when it's a stand up or a 10-12 hour overnight but when we have 18+ hours at the XYZ airport north/south/east/west hotel, just chill out a minute. And don't make me call the hotel either. I'm not the one who lost my temper. Enjoy the nice day out and have a little patience.

vagabond

I saw something like that one day. Don't know the airline, but it was embarrassing to everyone and not professional at all. It made this cranky old lawyer want to go over and say something to the juvenile Captain. This type of behavior is 100 times worse than walking around with a Hello Kitty backpack.

Packrat

But I LOVE Hello Kitty!

NERD

Hotels sign a contract stipulating what is required for wait times. Some hotels will just run the vans at set times and if you just miss it, you wait a whole cycle (30 mins ) in most cases. Our contract says 20 mins. I'll give them an extra 5, maybe 10, then I cab it and either the front desk pays, or I expense it and get reimbursed 6 weeks later. No reason to get the blood pressure up over and get angry.

saxman66

Not just hotel vans but the guys that yell at anyone for anything. I've had a couple guys just rail on the guy on the ops radio on how the flights are over-blocked, as if he had set the airlines schedules up. Or just yelling on the ops freq for not having rampers or something out of this control.

GogglesPisano

If you raise your voice, you've lost the argument.

CBreezy

I'd like to nominate the LGA clearance controller last night for the tantrum he was throwing for the better part of an hour because he had to do his job. Some of the more memorable quotes: "I'm going to shut this frequency down if you people keep calling me" "No, I'm not verifying anything, you can verify your route with center when you're airborne."

From Delta: "Are we still on the GLDMN climb?"
DLV: "I don't know! What did we give you 3 hours ago? That's your clearance."
Delta: But we returned the gate and company refiled.
DLV: you know what, they need to stop doing that. I give you permission to fly, your company doesn't. I'm not telling you anything. What I gave you originally is your clearance.