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06-22-2016, 09:17 AM
#8421
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Originally Posted by WhiskeyDelta
Today's TOTD.
The guy walking around ATL wearing a sleeveless gray argyle sweater over his uniform with his epaulettes ever so slightly visible.
You, sir, are at the forefront of flight crew fashion.
The guy walking around ATL wearing a sleeveless gray argyle sweater over his uniform with his epaulettes ever so slightly visible.
You, sir, are at the forefront of flight crew fashion.
06-22-2016, 09:45 AM
#8422
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Position: B-737NG preferably in first class with a glass of champagne and caviar
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Originally Posted by qball
Just wearing a sleeveless argyle sweater would qualify on its own. No bow tie?
06-27-2016, 07:44 PM
#8423
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To the Delta Flight northbound from Colombia today. Maybe not TOTD, but a worthy attempt. Immunity granted for Latin/South/New Hire Newbies.
The sequence of ATC was as follows,
Bogota Center
Barranquilla South
Barranquilla North
Kingston Center
Havana Center
MIA Center
Every handoff/new contact was standard, fine, no problem.
Problems? Every single approach to an FIR boundary was a call to the center requesting the next centers frequency up to and including MIA Center. Newflash for our heroes, it's written in the King's English on the chart you were issued. Read up on it.
Also, there were no less than three separate calls asking "Hello Bogota/Barranquilla, are you still there?"
Things are quiet down there at certain times, be quiet and if they want to talk to you, they will call on Guard.
Problem #2, there were three separate instances of calling the next FIR boundary center on Guard instead of the right frequency. Kudos to the polite Guard cops away from the RJ infested NE USA.
FYI, one doesn't have to contact MIA center 10 minutes prior northbound from "Koo-ba" anymore.
My bets are a Chief Pilot or Schoolhouse problem child CA was onboard. I personally like my peace and quiet for naptime at that time of day and of course, my radio discipline is flawless
The sequence of ATC was as follows,
Bogota Center
Barranquilla South
Barranquilla North
Kingston Center
Havana Center
MIA Center
Every handoff/new contact was standard, fine, no problem.
Problems? Every single approach to an FIR boundary was a call to the center requesting the next centers frequency up to and including MIA Center. Newflash for our heroes, it's written in the King's English on the chart you were issued. Read up on it.
Also, there were no less than three separate calls asking "Hello Bogota/Barranquilla, are you still there?"
Things are quiet down there at certain times, be quiet and if they want to talk to you, they will call on Guard.
Problem #2, there were three separate instances of calling the next FIR boundary center on Guard instead of the right frequency. Kudos to the polite Guard cops away from the RJ infested NE USA.
FYI, one doesn't have to contact MIA center 10 minutes prior northbound from "Koo-ba" anymore.
My bets are a Chief Pilot or Schoolhouse problem child CA was onboard. I personally like my peace and quiet for naptime at that time of day and of course, my radio discipline is flawless
06-27-2016, 08:00 PM
#8424
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Posts: 194
Originally Posted by Dolphinflyer
To the Delta Flight northbound from Colombia today. Maybe not TOTD, but a worthy attempt. Immunity granted for Latin/South/New Hire Newbies.
The sequence of ATC was as follows,
Bogota Center
Barranquilla South
Barranquilla North
Kingston Center
Havana Center
MIA Center
Every handoff/new contact was standard, fine, no problem.
Problems? Every single approach to an FIR boundary was a call to the center requesting the next centers frequency up to and including MIA Center. Newflash for our heroes, it's written in the King's English on the chart you were issued. Read up on it.
Also, there were no less than three separate calls asking "Hello Bogota/Barranquilla, are you still there?"
Things are quiet down there at certain times, be quiet and if they want to talk to you, they will call on Guard.
Problem #2, there were three separate instances of calling the next FIR boundary center on Guard instead of the right frequency. Kudos to the polite Guard cops away from the RJ infested NE USA.
FYI, one doesn't have to contact MIA center 10 minutes prior northbound from "Koo-ba" anymore.
My bets are a Chief Pilot or Schoolhouse problem child CA was onboard. I personally like my peace and quiet for naptime at that time of day and of course, my radio discipline is flawless
The sequence of ATC was as follows,
Bogota Center
Barranquilla South
Barranquilla North
Kingston Center
Havana Center
MIA Center
Every handoff/new contact was standard, fine, no problem.
Problems? Every single approach to an FIR boundary was a call to the center requesting the next centers frequency up to and including MIA Center. Newflash for our heroes, it's written in the King's English on the chart you were issued. Read up on it.
Also, there were no less than three separate calls asking "Hello Bogota/Barranquilla, are you still there?"
Things are quiet down there at certain times, be quiet and if they want to talk to you, they will call on Guard.
Problem #2, there were three separate instances of calling the next FIR boundary center on Guard instead of the right frequency. Kudos to the polite Guard cops away from the RJ infested NE USA.
FYI, one doesn't have to contact MIA center 10 minutes prior northbound from "Koo-ba" anymore.
My bets are a Chief Pilot or Schoolhouse problem child CA was onboard. I personally like my peace and quiet for naptime at that time of day and of course, my radio discipline is flawless
I have a decent amount of time flying around that area and granted the aircraft were older and less than stellar I did find myself lost comm occasionally until I was able to get a relay from another A/C for a new freq. More so happened headed to Brazil dealing with Venezuela. I found it helpful to grab a backup freq from them to not have to try out the entire list on the charts.
As for calling MIA 10 min before, UAL just put out a bulletin stating this is required.
06-28-2016, 02:40 AM
#8427
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Originally Posted by Dolphinflyer
To the Delta Flight northbound from Colombia today. Maybe not TOTD, but a worthy attempt. Immunity granted for Latin/South/New Hire Newbies.
The sequence of ATC was as follows,
Bogota Center
Barranquilla South
Barranquilla North
Kingston Center
Havana Center
MIA Center
Every handoff/new contact was standard, fine, no problem.
Problems? Every single approach to an FIR boundary was a call to the center requesting the next centers frequency up to and including MIA Center. Newflash for our heroes, it's written in the King's English on the chart you were issued. Read up on it.
Also, there were no less than three separate calls asking "Hello Bogota/Barranquilla, are you still there?"
Things are quiet down there at certain times, be quiet and if they want to talk to you, they will call on Guard.
Problem #2, there were three separate instances of calling the next FIR boundary center on Guard instead of the right frequency. Kudos to the polite Guard cops away from the RJ infested NE USA.
FYI, one doesn't have to contact MIA center 10 minutes prior northbound from "Koo-ba" anymore.
My bets are a Chief Pilot or Schoolhouse problem child CA was onboard. I personally like my peace and quiet for naptime at that time of day and of course, my radio discipline is flawless
The sequence of ATC was as follows,
Bogota Center
Barranquilla South
Barranquilla North
Kingston Center
Havana Center
MIA Center
Every handoff/new contact was standard, fine, no problem.
Problems? Every single approach to an FIR boundary was a call to the center requesting the next centers frequency up to and including MIA Center. Newflash for our heroes, it's written in the King's English on the chart you were issued. Read up on it.
Also, there were no less than three separate calls asking "Hello Bogota/Barranquilla, are you still there?"
Things are quiet down there at certain times, be quiet and if they want to talk to you, they will call on Guard.
Problem #2, there were three separate instances of calling the next FIR boundary center on Guard instead of the right frequency. Kudos to the polite Guard cops away from the RJ infested NE USA.
FYI, one doesn't have to contact MIA center 10 minutes prior northbound from "Koo-ba" anymore.
My bets are a Chief Pilot or Schoolhouse problem child CA was onboard. I personally like my peace and quiet for naptime at that time of day and of course, my radio discipline is flawless
Yeah, the crew could have done their homework. Very easy to review Pans Ops and Jeppy Manuals. Laziness comes into mind. However, at the end of the day, I vote for crappy training from those who've never been further from the underground from ATL. Operators within Austrial Asia know how this stuff works. Why not DAL? The other day, listening to a crew arguing with Brisbane Center justifying SLOP whilst operating in radar contact in Brisbane Center's radar without appropriate clearance. Argggg.
Last edited by captjns; 06-28-2016 at 03:02 AM.
06-28-2016, 03:58 AM
#8428
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Posts: 676
Apologies to the DAL crew.
Event wasn't worthy of highlighting the operator on this thread, just lame attempt at sarcastic humor and not the right thread for it.
As I mentioned, completely understand if it was a new guy to south ops. There are many more risks down there, and on second thought, erring on the positive side is a good thing.
Event wasn't worthy of highlighting the operator on this thread, just lame attempt at sarcastic humor and not the right thread for it.
As I mentioned, completely understand if it was a new guy to south ops. There are many more risks down there, and on second thought, erring on the positive side is a good thing.
06-28-2016, 04:11 AM
#8429
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Posts: 676
Originally Posted by stis202
As for calling MIA 10 min before, UAL just put out a bulletin stating this is required.
Your guys might have taken the move to just standardize it. That might be a better move until MIA gets more consistent across all the FIR's excluding the NY Oceanic airspace.
06-28-2016, 06:55 AM
#8430
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Posts: 194
Originally Posted by Dolphinflyer
I'll also admit the changes by MIA ATC have been as clear as mud re MIA. When over Cuba northbound to MIA, no call required, but they still want a call northbound over Haiti and the D.R.
Your guys might have taken the move to just standardize it. That might be a better move until MIA gets more consistent across all the FIR's excluding the NY Oceanic airspace.
Your guys might have taken the move to just standardize it. That might be a better move until MIA gets more consistent across all the FIR's excluding the NY Oceanic airspace.
I have 2 friends that work those sectors in MIA center and I asked about it. They said they don't care if we call at the boundary or 10 before honestly but it is MIA so that explains everything.
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