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Old 08-03-2016 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Montanaflying
That is far from correct.

People can be photographed if they are in public (without their consent) unless they have secluded themselves and can expect a reasonable degree of privacy. Kids swimming in a fountain? Okay. Somebody entering their PIN at the ATM? Not okay. You are even protected to take photos of private property, as long as you are on public, even if it is into your neighbors window, as long as the curtains are open, and there has been no attempt to close them. Key phrase is there is no expectation of privacy, and person is not legally protected by intellectual property rights, as long as you are in a place viewable by the public. How do you think the paparazzi gets away with celebrity nipple slips on private beaches?
All I understood was "nipple slips"....and boy are those fun!
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Old 08-03-2016 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Montanaflying
That is far from correct.

People can be photographed if they are in public (without their consent) unless they have secluded themselves and can expect a reasonable degree of privacy. Kids swimming in a fountain? Okay. Somebody entering their PIN at the ATM? Not okay. You are even protected to take photos of private property, as long as you are on public, even if it is into your neighbors window, as long as the curtains are open, and there has been no attempt to close them. Key phrase is there is no expectation of privacy, and person is not legally protected by intellectual property rights, as long as you are in a place viewable by the public. How do you think the paparazzi gets away with celebrity nipple slips on private beaches?

Crew members can not be photographed on board an aircraft, without permission. Not sure if every airline follows this, but it's in the in flight magazine and I've seen fas stop their demo.
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Old 08-03-2016 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Montanaflying
That is far from correct.

People can be photographed if they are in public (without their consent) unless they have secluded themselves and can expect a reasonable degree of privacy. Kids swimming in a fountain? Okay. Somebody entering their PIN at the ATM? Not okay. You are even protected to take photos of private property, as long as you are on public, even if it is into your neighbors window, as long as the curtains are open, and there has been no attempt to close them. Key phrase is there is no expectation of privacy, and person is not legally protected by intellectual property rights, as long as you are in a place viewable by the public. How do you think the paparazzi gets away with celebrity nipple slips on private beaches?
I always thought those nipple slipps were photoshopped in. Huh. Well, now I know. Perhaps I will keep more of those magazines passengers leave on board from now on
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Old 08-07-2016 | 04:33 PM
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Latest nominee: the UAL CA who nonrevved on us (Skywest) a couple days ago. I greeted him as he boarded with a friendly 'welcome aboard, Captain', only to be completely ignored. Same thing happened when we deplaned. Not even a glance of acknowledgement, no 'thanks for the ride,' nothing. And I know he was a nonrev guy, not deadheading.

The complete absence of professional courtesy was just mind-boggling.
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Old 08-07-2016 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbosina
Latest nominee: the UAL CA who nonrevved on us (Skywest) a couple days ago. I greeted him as he boarded with a friendly 'welcome aboard, Captain', only to be completely ignored. Same thing happened when we deplaned. Not even a glance of acknowledgement, no 'thanks for the ride,' nothing. And I know he was a nonrev guy, not deadheading.

The complete absence of professional courtesy was just mind-boggling.
Did you call him/her on it?
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Old 08-07-2016 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbosina
Latest nominee: the UAL CA who nonrevved on us (Skywest) a couple days ago. I greeted him as he boarded with a friendly 'welcome aboard, Captain', only to be completely ignored. Same thing happened when we deplaned. Not even a glance of acknowledgement, no 'thanks for the ride,' nothing. And I know he was a nonrev guy, not deadheading.

The complete absence of professional courtesy was just mind-boggling.
Is it required for all non-revs to acknowledge you and say thanks? If he was pass riding what is the big deal? He was using a seat in the cabin and sounds like you were trying to elicit a thanks for giving him the ride when in actuality it was his pass privilege that actually got him the ride.

Also was this on a route that was previously flown as a manline flight? Perhaps the "thanks for flying the route I previously flew" would not have been received well by you and your need for acknowledgement.
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Old 08-07-2016 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbosina
Latest nominee: the UAL CA who nonrevved on us (Skywest) a couple days ago. I greeted him as he boarded with a friendly 'welcome aboard, Captain', only to be completely ignored. Same thing happened when we deplaned. Not even a glance of acknowledgement, no 'thanks for the ride,' nothing. And I know he was a nonrev guy, not deadheading.

The complete absence of professional courtesy was just mind-boggling.
If they're not jumpseating, I don't get bent out of shape over it. Lambourne hit the nail squarely on the head in his assessment.
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Old 08-07-2016 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Lambourne
Is it required for all non-revs to acknowledge you and say thanks? If he was pass riding what is the big deal? He was using a seat in the cabin and sounds like you were trying to elicit a thanks for giving him the ride when in actuality it was his pass privilege that actually got him the ride.

Also was this on a route that was previously flown as a manline flight? Perhaps the "thanks for flying the route I previously flew" would not have been received well by you and your need for acknowledgement.
Really it's got nothing to do with non-revving, jumpseating, etc. It's just common courtesy to acknowledge someone when they welcome you aboard or say goodbye, whether you're boarding the crew van or a 777

And as far as the route goes, I don't recall mainline ever flying into San Luis Obispo. But what should that have to do with anything? Nothing, that's what.
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Old 08-07-2016 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Luv2Rotate
Did you call him/her on it?
No, I just figured that perhaps the guy was having a bad day. Or that he was one of those guys with a chip on his shoulder about the regionals. Or possibly that he was just really antisocial.
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Old 08-07-2016 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Lambourne
Also was this on a route that was previously flown as a manline flight? Perhaps the "thanks for flying the route I previously flew" would not have been received well by you and your need for acknowledgement.
Let me help you out with that;

"thanks for flying the route I gave away on (insert scope give by legacy airline pilot on a pre pre 9/11 dollar bills and big jets for small jet giveaway here)"

And round and round a chicken-egg circle jerk could go........

Another one from "the jumpseat files"...........

Hub to hub city pair, there's lot of non-revs, there ALWAYS IS. Standard, pilots ALWAYS list for non-rev and JS, it's just what commuters do. Turns out, ALL non-revs cleared on stand by passes and didn't have to JS, to include the express employees.

Legacy CA makes an RJ CA get out of his last row middle seat, walk all the way up to the cockpit, and check in with him. Even though he cleared on a non rev pass. CA acts appalled that RJ CA didn't check in. Turns out, even the gate agent told the CA everyone cleared and no one was JS'ing.

CA wouldn't close the door till the RJ CA came up to the cockpit and said "hi".

When the call is made to get his side of the story, his rationale is "well I'm just doing my job". No clue when got written in that it's the CA's job to police the non revs as well.......
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