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08-02-2016, 10:06 PM
#8491
On Reserve
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Posts: 19
Originally Posted by NeverHome
This is a truly sad, yet accurate portrayal of ehat I call the 1%ers. I have flown with FOs who are in this category. It goes both ways. Usually though the FO feels they are more qualified to be CA. Maybe, maybe not. Even if they were you would think that experience would dictate a desire to strive for teamwork.
Along that last line, how many times in history has metal been bent and flesh been roasted because a crew could not function as a crew? IMHO these 1%ers should be weeded out. I know I know, "but following the book is required and a safety device!" Yes to a point. Of the two 121s I have been at, the books have conflicting and contradictory info. Discretion. That is key. The 1%ers dont have it, and that is why they need not to be flying airplanes.
Dont get me wrong, I follow the book as much as practical. But I dont let my knowlege of the nitty gritty prevent me from seeing the whole picture. Sadly too many people fall for that trap. Good people too. But the 1%ers take it to new and dangerous hights.
Ok im done
Along that last line, how many times in history has metal been bent and flesh been roasted because a crew could not function as a crew? IMHO these 1%ers should be weeded out. I know I know, "but following the book is required and a safety device!" Yes to a point. Of the two 121s I have been at, the books have conflicting and contradictory info. Discretion. That is key. The 1%ers dont have it, and that is why they need not to be flying airplanes.
Dont get me wrong, I follow the book as much as practical. But I dont let my knowlege of the nitty gritty prevent me from seeing the whole picture. Sadly too many people fall for that trap. Good people too. But the 1%ers take it to new and dangerous hights.
Ok im done
I don't think it ever got through to him that what he was describing was the literal opposite of the CRM concept.
08-03-2016, 06:02 AM
#8492
Line Holder
Joined APC: Dec 2012
Position: Right Seat, BOHICA Clipper
Posts: 42
Originally Posted by captjns
It's also not legal without express written permission from the subject. Hope the Ansel Adams wannabe gets tagged.
People can be photographed if they are in public (without their consent) unless they have secluded themselves and can expect a reasonable degree of privacy. Kids swimming in a fountain? Okay. Somebody entering their PIN at the ATM? Not okay. You are even protected to take photos of private property, as long as you are on public, even if it is into your neighbors window, as long as the curtains are open, and there has been no attempt to close them. Key phrase is there is no expectation of privacy, and person is not legally protected by intellectual property rights, as long as you are in a place viewable by the public. How do you think the paparazzi gets away with celebrity nipple slips on private beaches?
08-03-2016, 02:28 PM
#8493
ULTP-Ultra Low Tier Pilot
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,228
Originally Posted by Montanaflying
That is far from correct.
People can be photographed if they are in public (without their consent) unless they have secluded themselves and can expect a reasonable degree of privacy. Kids swimming in a fountain? Okay. Somebody entering their PIN at the ATM? Not okay. You are even protected to take photos of private property, as long as you are on public, even if it is into your neighbors window, as long as the curtains are open, and there has been no attempt to close them. Key phrase is there is no expectation of privacy, and person is not legally protected by intellectual property rights, as long as you are in a place viewable by the public. How do you think the paparazzi gets away with celebrity nipple slips on private beaches?
People can be photographed if they are in public (without their consent) unless they have secluded themselves and can expect a reasonable degree of privacy. Kids swimming in a fountain? Okay. Somebody entering their PIN at the ATM? Not okay. You are even protected to take photos of private property, as long as you are on public, even if it is into your neighbors window, as long as the curtains are open, and there has been no attempt to close them. Key phrase is there is no expectation of privacy, and person is not legally protected by intellectual property rights, as long as you are in a place viewable by the public. How do you think the paparazzi gets away with celebrity nipple slips on private beaches?
08-03-2016, 02:47 PM
#8494
Junior Senior
Joined APC: Feb 2012
Position: Whiskey Papa
Posts: 2,850
Originally Posted by Montanaflying
That is far from correct.
People can be photographed if they are in public (without their consent) unless they have secluded themselves and can expect a reasonable degree of privacy. Kids swimming in a fountain? Okay. Somebody entering their PIN at the ATM? Not okay. You are even protected to take photos of private property, as long as you are on public, even if it is into your neighbors window, as long as the curtains are open, and there has been no attempt to close them. Key phrase is there is no expectation of privacy, and person is not legally protected by intellectual property rights, as long as you are in a place viewable by the public. How do you think the paparazzi gets away with celebrity nipple slips on private beaches?
People can be photographed if they are in public (without their consent) unless they have secluded themselves and can expect a reasonable degree of privacy. Kids swimming in a fountain? Okay. Somebody entering their PIN at the ATM? Not okay. You are even protected to take photos of private property, as long as you are on public, even if it is into your neighbors window, as long as the curtains are open, and there has been no attempt to close them. Key phrase is there is no expectation of privacy, and person is not legally protected by intellectual property rights, as long as you are in a place viewable by the public. How do you think the paparazzi gets away with celebrity nipple slips on private beaches?
Crew members can not be photographed on board an aircraft, without permission. Not sure if every airline follows this, but it's in the in flight magazine and I've seen fas stop their demo.
08-03-2016, 04:25 PM
#8495
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2013
Posts: 539
Originally Posted by Montanaflying
That is far from correct.
People can be photographed if they are in public (without their consent) unless they have secluded themselves and can expect a reasonable degree of privacy. Kids swimming in a fountain? Okay. Somebody entering their PIN at the ATM? Not okay. You are even protected to take photos of private property, as long as you are on public, even if it is into your neighbors window, as long as the curtains are open, and there has been no attempt to close them. Key phrase is there is no expectation of privacy, and person is not legally protected by intellectual property rights, as long as you are in a place viewable by the public. How do you think the paparazzi gets away with celebrity nipple slips on private beaches?
People can be photographed if they are in public (without their consent) unless they have secluded themselves and can expect a reasonable degree of privacy. Kids swimming in a fountain? Okay. Somebody entering their PIN at the ATM? Not okay. You are even protected to take photos of private property, as long as you are on public, even if it is into your neighbors window, as long as the curtains are open, and there has been no attempt to close them. Key phrase is there is no expectation of privacy, and person is not legally protected by intellectual property rights, as long as you are in a place viewable by the public. How do you think the paparazzi gets away with celebrity nipple slips on private beaches?
08-07-2016, 04:33 PM
#8496
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2015
Position: Guppy Gear Slinger
Posts: 1,850
Latest nominee: the UAL CA who nonrevved on us (Skywest) a couple days ago. I greeted him as he boarded with a friendly 'welcome aboard, Captain', only to be completely ignored. Same thing happened when we deplaned. Not even a glance of acknowledgement, no 'thanks for the ride,' nothing. And I know he was a nonrev guy, not deadheading.
The complete absence of professional courtesy was just mind-boggling.
The complete absence of professional courtesy was just mind-boggling.
08-07-2016, 05:14 PM
#8497
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,498
Originally Posted by Turbosina
Latest nominee: the UAL CA who nonrevved on us (Skywest) a couple days ago. I greeted him as he boarded with a friendly 'welcome aboard, Captain', only to be completely ignored. Same thing happened when we deplaned. Not even a glance of acknowledgement, no 'thanks for the ride,' nothing. And I know he was a nonrev guy, not deadheading.
The complete absence of professional courtesy was just mind-boggling.
The complete absence of professional courtesy was just mind-boggling.
08-07-2016, 09:13 PM
#8498
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2007
Position: B777 Capt
Posts: 844
Originally Posted by Turbosina
Latest nominee: the UAL CA who nonrevved on us (Skywest) a couple days ago. I greeted him as he boarded with a friendly 'welcome aboard, Captain', only to be completely ignored. Same thing happened when we deplaned. Not even a glance of acknowledgement, no 'thanks for the ride,' nothing. And I know he was a nonrev guy, not deadheading.
The complete absence of professional courtesy was just mind-boggling.
The complete absence of professional courtesy was just mind-boggling.
Also was this on a route that was previously flown as a manline flight? Perhaps the "thanks for flying the route I previously flew" would not have been received well by you and your need for acknowledgement.
08-07-2016, 09:30 PM
#8499
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2016
Posts: 602
Originally Posted by Turbosina
Latest nominee: the UAL CA who nonrevved on us (Skywest) a couple days ago. I greeted him as he boarded with a friendly 'welcome aboard, Captain', only to be completely ignored. Same thing happened when we deplaned. Not even a glance of acknowledgement, no 'thanks for the ride,' nothing. And I know he was a nonrev guy, not deadheading.
The complete absence of professional courtesy was just mind-boggling.
The complete absence of professional courtesy was just mind-boggling.
08-07-2016, 09:47 PM
#8500
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2015
Position: Guppy Gear Slinger
Posts: 1,850
Originally Posted by Lambourne
Is it required for all non-revs to acknowledge you and say thanks? If he was pass riding what is the big deal? He was using a seat in the cabin and sounds like you were trying to elicit a thanks for giving him the ride when in actuality it was his pass privilege that actually got him the ride.
Also was this on a route that was previously flown as a manline flight? Perhaps the "thanks for flying the route I previously flew" would not have been received well by you and your need for acknowledgement.
Also was this on a route that was previously flown as a manline flight? Perhaps the "thanks for flying the route I previously flew" would not have been received well by you and your need for acknowledgement.
And as far as the route goes, I don't recall mainline ever flying into San Luis Obispo. But what should that have to do with anything? Nothing, that's what.
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