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Old 07-17-2016 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
If you raise your voice, you've lost the argument.
What if I'm yelling down from the cokpit to tell the increasingly lazy "team members" working the ramp to go get a headset after they indicate to me the one they have doesn't work? I guess I win because they always slowly shuffle away and shuffle back with one.
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Old 07-17-2016 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by joepilot
I don't know what your contract says, but at "my house", if the transport is not ready to leave 30 minutes after block-in, it is time to expense a taxi.

If you don't have some protections in your contract, then it is time to lean on your reps about the next contract.

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We have the same provisions in our contract thankfully, my point was, if the van isnt there, and you wait, and eventually doesnt come an you need a cab, get one. No reason to embarrass yourself and throw a fit about it because you missed happy hour at Chilis. Its just awkward when your Captain, the leader of the crew is having a temper tantrum when we have been waiting just a few minutes. Sometimes thats life and you need to wait 2-5 minutes. Take the cab, expense it, file a hotel complaint and get on with your life.
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Old 07-18-2016 | 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by prex8390
We have the same provisions in our contract thankfully, my point was, if the van isnt there, and you wait, and eventually doesnt come an you need a cab, get one. No reason to embarrass yourself and throw a fit about it because you missed happy hour at Chilis. Its just awkward when your Captain, the leader of the crew is having a temper tantrum when we have been waiting just a few minutes. Sometimes thats life and you need to wait 2-5 minutes. Take the cab, expense it, file a hotel complaint and get on with your life.
Especially since Chilli's happy hour is all day.
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Old 07-18-2016 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by cactusflyer
I'm most of the way through a trip with someone I'm going to call Bob, who is a good nominee for TOTD.

Bob has decided he's on a holy mission from God to correct the fact that everyone doesn't follow the manuals 100% of the time on every leg, and hes singlehandedly going to badger every single FO and flight attendant into compliance.

He started the trip by berating the flight attendants for going to get coffee after their 5am check in, since he needed to give them a stupidly detailed weather breifing that contained zero useful information.

After about six legs of this BS, I (mostly) politely pointed out that I flew my last two trips with check airmen who had zero complaints about how I do my job, which was greeted with "well, the check airmen teach cultural procedures, not what's in the manuals".
This is a truly sad, yet accurate portrayal of ehat I call the 1%ers. I have flown with FOs who are in this category. It goes both ways. Usually though the FO feels they are more qualified to be CA. Maybe, maybe not. Even if they were you would think that experience would dictate a desire to strive for teamwork.

Along that last line, how many times in history has metal been bent and flesh been roasted because a crew could not function as a crew? IMHO these 1%ers should be weeded out. I know I know, "but following the book is required and a safety device!" Yes to a point. Of the two 121s I have been at, the books have conflicting and contradictory info. Discretion. That is key. The 1%ers dont have it, and that is why they need not to be flying airplanes.

Dont get me wrong, I follow the book as much as practical. But I dont let my knowlege of the nitty gritty prevent me from seeing the whole picture. Sadly too many people fall for that trap. Good people too. But the 1%ers take it to new and dangerous hights.

Ok im done
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Old 07-20-2016 | 12:26 PM
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"Kennedy ground, JB 123, holding short of B."
Silence.
Pause -
"Kennedy ground, JB 123."
Silence.
"Kennedy ground, JB 123."

"JB 123, Kennedy ground, go ahead."

"We're holding short of Bravo and were told to wait for your call."

?!?!?

Kennedy ground - "well I guess thanks for telling me that ..."

FO and I look at each other and start chuckling.
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Old 07-20-2016 | 12:38 PM
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They guy behind me today on Gander Center who kept saying "Delta's Flight XYZ."
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Old 07-20-2016 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DCA A321 FO
They guy behind me today on Gander Center who kept saying "Delta's Flight XYZ."
Could have been been worse. Could have check in as Delta Trip XYZ.
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Old 07-20-2016 | 08:10 PM
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Man you guys talk about guard police. It's not as bad in Asia as it is in the NE USA but I heard a couple of Chinese pilots yelling at each other over Shanghai the other day. I guess a few folks decided to have a convo in mandarin so some guy in a thick Chinese accent yelled "SHUT UP!!!!!!!"

I busted a gut laughing
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Old 07-23-2016 | 06:43 PM
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The young barely reached puberty voice who snuck onto 121.5 and quietly asked "any Guard Cops on freq today"?
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Old 07-28-2016 | 01:26 AM
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The crew member flossing his teeth on crew van. Just cannot make this stuff up.
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