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08-15-2016 | 06:50 AM
#8591
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From: Grp Cpt
The other day I was jumpseating and was given a seat in the back. I saw the captain in the galley as I was boarding, introduced myself, showed badge, mentioned I was given a seat in the back and asked him if I could get a ride to XYZ. He escorted me into the flight deck and thoroughly inspected all of my documents and then said I was ok. Not saying this guy was TOTD but really??
08-15-2016 | 06:54 AM
#8592
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From: Just because the MEL says we can, doesn't mean we should
The other day I was jumpseating and was given a seat in the back. I saw the captain in the galley as I was boarding, introduced myself, showed badge, mentioned I was given a seat in the back and asked him if I could get a ride to XYZ. He escorted me into the flight deck and thoroughly inspected all of my documents and then said I was ok. Not saying this guy was TOTD but really??
I'm sure it's just a power trip for a few.
08-15-2016 | 07:02 AM
#8593
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From: Fairly local
Some captains check all docs in case you end up at the last minute being full in back and must actually ride in the cockpit, then they don't have to do it later. (I'm a long way from being a captain)
08-15-2016 | 07:06 AM
#8594
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From: Precarious
A while back there was a Fed out on the west coast that was threatening enforcement for guys who didn't check the required documents per the FOM. The fed even went back and asked jumpseaters with a cabin seat if the capt had checked their documents. I heard this while I was checking in asking for a jumpseat myself. The capt was almost apologetic that he was going through my docs so carefully, but he didn't want to risk a violation. The point is that it is not always an ego thing when you get asked, it is just a by the book process, and if someone asks to see your docs just smile and comply.
08-15-2016 | 07:45 AM
#8595
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A while back there was a Fed out on the west coast that was threatening enforcement for guys who didn't check the required documents per the FOM. The fed even went back and asked jumpseaters with a cabin seat if the capt had checked their documents. I heard this while I was checking in asking for a jumpseat myself. The capt was almost apologetic that he was going through my docs so carefully, but he didn't want to risk a violation. The point is that it is not always an ego thing when you get asked, it is just a by the book process, and if someone asks to see your docs just smile and comply.
08-15-2016 | 08:12 AM
#8596
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From: 319/320/321...whatever it takes.
If you are on a non rev or space available pass, document check is not required. If you are traveling on jumpseat privileges, doc check is required, even if sitting in back. You are riding as a working crew member, and may be expected to help out if something goes wrong. Same reason you can't drink while on a JS, not even if riding in back. An FAA inspector told me this very thing while riding in my jumpseat. Maybe different FSDOs have different attitudes about this. The guy I talked to was west coast IIRC. It's also in our FOM this way.
08-15-2016 | 08:22 AM
#8597
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It's not a power trip at all. It's required and if you're asked, it's not because the Capt is trying to be a douche, it's just CYA.
08-15-2016 | 10:52 AM
#8598
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It's one more layer in the Swiss cheese model to make sure unwanted people aren't allowed cockpit access. I'd rather have my docs checked every time than a one time event where someone who wasn't authorized got up front.
08-15-2016 | 11:49 AM
#8599
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From: Just because the MEL says we can, doesn't mean we should
08-15-2016 | 12:07 PM
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