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Old 08-14-2016 | 09:42 AM
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Not to mention it's nice to know you have another professional pilot on board to use as an option should the unfortunate need arise. Jumpseaters have been used in the past and will be used in the future. Part of using all available resources...

When you sign for the Jumpseat you are accepting being a part of the crew. That alone warrants talking to the Captain. If he is busy and brushes you away to your seat in the back that's fine but he will still remember seeing you and know you are there.
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Old 08-14-2016 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Omar 111
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How often do you see a pilot headed to the back because the agent said take a seat, yet still in possession of a 1P boarding pass? I see it quite often since the agents are too lazy/rushed to change their status. Now they show up on the WDR as a jump seater and you have an unresolved weight and balance issue you have to handle. I think it's easier for JS'ers to just stop at the door and say hi.

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This is a different scenario. You're absolutely correct. I'm talking about the situation where they are handed a boarding pass with a pax seat on it.
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Old 08-14-2016 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
Not required at all airlines (think Delta.) The times they are a-changin'.

I couldn't care less if they come up to say hello/ask permission.
Unfortunately, this is not always the case. A couple years ago, I tried to check in with the CA while jump seating on a Delta flight. The MX guy was standing in the cockpit door way talking to the pilots, so I couldn't get past him, the gate agent and FA is rushing me telling me to take my seat (since I was the last one). I waited until I was the last one off the flight, and told the CA on my way out, I tried to check in, but he was busy with the MX guy and the agent and FA was rushing me to take my seat. I said Thank You and walked off. The CA followed me down the escalator and gave me an ear full about always having to check in even if i got a seat.
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Old 08-14-2016 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Silver02ex
Unfortunately, this is not always the case. A couple years ago, I tried to check in with the CA while jump seating on a Delta flight. The MX guy was standing in the cockpit door way talking to the pilots, so I couldn't get past him, the gate agent and FA is rushing me telling me to take my seat (since I was the last one). I waited until I was the last one off the flight, and told the CA on my way out, I tried to check in, but he was busy with the MX guy and the agent and FA was rushing me to take my seat. I said Thank You and walked off. The CA followed me down the escalator and gave me an ear full about always having to check in even if i got a seat.
I think the procedure has been changed recently. Never a need to "chew someone out" over not asking for a jumpseat. For some guys, it's an ego thing.
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Old 08-14-2016 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Firsttimeflyer
Not to mention it's nice to know you have another professional pilot on board to use as an option should the unfortunate need arise. Jumpseaters have been used in the past and will be used in the future. Part of using all available resources...

When you sign for the Jumpseat you are accepting being a part of the crew. That alone warrants talking to the Captain. If he is busy and brushes you away to your seat in the back that's fine but he will still remember seeing you and know you are there.
Interesting point, but I bet you 95% of the butthurts never actually think about this. It's all about flexing their almighty jumpseat authority over someone...

Still, DH and other non-revs aren't expected to do this, even when on-duty and in uniform. Professional courtesy is always appreciated, I'm sure. But chasing people down an escalator because they sat in the back with all the other non-revs is over the top.. Life must really be bland for those guys who actually care enough to bother someone sitting in the back. IMHO...
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Old 08-14-2016 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver02ex
Unfortunately, this is not always the case. A couple years ago, I tried to check in with the CA while jump seating on a Delta flight. The MX guy was standing in the cockpit door way talking to the pilots, so I couldn't get past him, the gate agent and FA is rushing me telling me to take my seat (since I was the last one). I waited until I was the last one off the flight, and told the CA on my way out, I tried to check in, but he was busy with the MX guy and the agent and FA was rushing me to take my seat. I said Thank You and walked off. The CA followed me down the escalator and gave me an ear full about always having to check in even if i got a seat.
Shoulda just walked off the plane and never looked back.
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Old 08-14-2016 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
I'm talking about the situation where they are handed a boarding pass with a pax seat on it.
Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
Never a need to "chew someone out" over not asking for a jumpseat. For some guys, it's an ego thing.
Both good points. I'm Home Based now, so I'm always travelling in uniform on a ticket. Still, I try to introduce myself to the Captain
for a couple reasons.

1. So he knows he has at least one ABP in the back who's familiar with commercial aviation.

2. So there is no misunderstanding about whether I'm jumpseating or not.

So far, there's never been an issue. I still poke my head in at the end if the door is open to say "Thank You" anyway.
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Old 08-14-2016 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Packrat
Both good points. I'm Home Based now, so I'm always travelling in uniform on a ticket. Still, I try to introduce myself to the Captain
for a couple reasons.
Why do you travel in uniform on a ticket? I do my best to NOT stand out as a pilot when traveling to/from work on a ticket.

Be honest...you dream of playing Ted Stryker after the crew both eat the fish, don't you?!
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Old 08-14-2016 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by HPIC
Why do you travel in uniform on a ticket? I do my best to NOT stand out as a pilot when traveling to/from work on a ticket.

Be honest...you dream of playing Ted Stryker after the crew both eat the fish, don't you?!
No, but it has gotten me upgraded to business class and first class from steerage economy. It also makes it MUCH easier to get through customs, especially overseas.
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Old 08-14-2016 | 05:42 PM
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I used to work with a guy who insisted on wearing his monkey suit when airlining, anywhere. Home based as well. Very ego driven. He even continued to wear his hat when it became optional. Went as far as doing many of captain duties for extra points. Best part was almost every foreign airline asked him to change out of his costume so nobody would confuse him with their crew! Total tool! (or target).
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