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Old 08-14-2016, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by HPIC View Post
Why do you travel in uniform on a ticket? I do my best to NOT stand out as a pilot when traveling to/from work on a ticket.

Be honest...you dream of playing Ted Stryker after the crew both eat the fish, don't you?!
No, but it has gotten me upgraded to business class and first class from steerage economy. It also makes it MUCH easier to get through customs, especially overseas.
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Old 08-14-2016, 05:42 PM
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I used to work with a guy who insisted on wearing his monkey suit when airlining, anywhere. Home based as well. Very ego driven. He even continued to wear his hat when it became optional. Went as far as doing many of captain duties for extra points. Best part was almost every foreign airline asked him to change out of his costume so nobody would confuse him with their crew! Total tool! (or target).
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Old 08-15-2016, 06:50 AM
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The other day I was jumpseating and was given a seat in the back. I saw the captain in the galley as I was boarding, introduced myself, showed badge, mentioned I was given a seat in the back and asked him if I could get a ride to XYZ. He escorted me into the flight deck and thoroughly inspected all of my documents and then said I was ok. Not saying this guy was TOTD but really??
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Old 08-15-2016, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Mandrake View Post
The other day I was jumpseating and was given a seat in the back. I saw the captain in the galley as I was boarding, introduced myself, showed badge, mentioned I was given a seat in the back and asked him if I could get a ride to XYZ. He escorted me into the flight deck and thoroughly inspected all of my documents and then said I was ok. Not saying this guy was TOTD but really??
Sometimes I wonder if these captains realize the document inspection is only required to ride up front, or if it's just habit.

I'm sure it's just a power trip for a few.
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Old 08-15-2016, 07:02 AM
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Some captains check all docs in case you end up at the last minute being full in back and must actually ride in the cockpit, then they don't have to do it later. (I'm a long way from being a captain)
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Old 08-15-2016, 07:06 AM
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A while back there was a Fed out on the west coast that was threatening enforcement for guys who didn't check the required documents per the FOM. The fed even went back and asked jumpseaters with a cabin seat if the capt had checked their documents. I heard this while I was checking in asking for a jumpseat myself. The capt was almost apologetic that he was going through my docs so carefully, but he didn't want to risk a violation. The point is that it is not always an ego thing when you get asked, it is just a by the book process, and if someone asks to see your docs just smile and comply.
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Old 08-15-2016, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by conquestdz View Post
A while back there was a Fed out on the west coast that was threatening enforcement for guys who didn't check the required documents per the FOM. The fed even went back and asked jumpseaters with a cabin seat if the capt had checked their documents. I heard this while I was checking in asking for a jumpseat myself. The capt was almost apologetic that he was going through my docs so carefully, but he didn't want to risk a violation. The point is that it is not always an ego thing when you get asked, it is just a by the book process, and if someone asks to see your docs just smile and comply.
That's interesting. I didn't think it was required if you have a ticket that shows a cabin seat? It's not as though the feds know what they're talking about half the time anyway.
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Old 08-15-2016, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by sweetholyjesus View Post
That's interesting. I didn't think it was required if you have a ticket that shows a cabin seat? It's not as though the feds know what they're talking about half the time anyway.
If you are on a non rev or space available pass, document check is not required. If you are traveling on jumpseat privileges, doc check is required, even if sitting in back. You are riding as a working crew member, and may be expected to help out if something goes wrong. Same reason you can't drink while on a JS, not even if riding in back. An FAA inspector told me this very thing while riding in my jumpseat. Maybe different FSDOs have different attitudes about this. The guy I talked to was west coast IIRC. It's also in our FOM this way.
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Old 08-15-2016, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 680crewchief View Post
Sometimes I wonder if these captains realize the document inspection is only required to ride up front, or if it's just habit.

I'm sure it's just a power trip for a few.
It's not a power trip at all. It's required and if you're asked, it's not because the Capt is trying to be a douche, it's just CYA.
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Old 08-15-2016, 10:52 AM
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It's one more layer in the Swiss cheese model to make sure unwanted people aren't allowed cockpit access. I'd rather have my docs checked every time than a one time event where someone who wasn't authorized got up front.
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