Tool of the day
09-27-2016, 03:37 PM
#8661
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Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine
Hey come on. For once cardiomd wrote about something he has some actually experience with. I would like him to continue that trend, so I will offer positive reinforcement. cariomd: good job 
(you even get bonus points for not mentioning how proficient you are at flying your 182)
(you even get bonus points for not mentioning how proficient you are at flying your 182)
Originally Posted by cornbeef007
Have you asked a center controller if it really helps? In reality there is more going on then just you and the frequency you are on. Majority is a little strong....
Originally Posted by labbats
I say BLOOOCKED all the time. Works great both at home and the office.
Originally Posted by USMCFDX
Thanks for quoting this "Doctor" tool bag. I have him "blocked" so I do not have to read his drivel.
09-27-2016, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Dolphinflyer
Even more important at busy hubs on Gound and Tower. I never hear ATC criticizing a "BLOCKED" call or even remember hearing something like "We are aware" or state they knew a block happen.
But yeah I guess it wasn't tool of the day worthy, more tool-of-the-hour. You heard the block and then the "blooocked" guy blocks another call. Going into kpwk was incredibly annoying.
09-27-2016, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by encore
Sooner or later something really bad is going to happen because of these guard idiots.
09-27-2016, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by cardiomd
Think about why they might not do that on an extremely busy channel.
But yeah I guess it wasn't tool of the day worthy, more tool-of-the-hour. You heard the block and then the "blooocked" guy blocks another call. Going into kpwk was incredibly annoying.
But yeah I guess it wasn't tool of the day worthy, more tool-of-the-hour. You heard the block and then the "blooocked" guy blocks another call. Going into kpwk was incredibly annoying.
I'll admit it's a very subjective situation, I believe your case. If it ever gets like the Guard Cops, it will be TOTD worthy.
Above FL180 and airline ops, I'd rank the "blocked" behavior as pretty disciplined. Most guys are too lazy to say it and know any additional syllables crap up a busy frequency. There are times when ATC is really busy and one can tell that they don't realize their last clearance was blocked, and as mentioned, is followed by a "listen up" bark as if the call sign was ignored and not blocked.
09-28-2016, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbosina
Well in this case, actually...it was the 'YER ON GUARD' guy that prevented Delta from an unauthorized push...
All guard police are tools and that is a nationwide thing in my experience.
Originally Posted by Dolphinflyer
I'll admit it's a very subjective situation, I believe your case. If it ever gets like the Guard Cops, it will be TOTD worthy.
Above FL180 and airline ops, I'd rank the "blocked" behavior as pretty disciplined. Most guys are too lazy to say it and know any additional syllables crap up a busy frequency. There are times when ATC is really busy and one can tell that they don't realize their last clearance was blocked, and as mentioned, is followed by a "listen up" bark as if the call sign was ignored and not blocked.
Above FL180 and airline ops, I'd rank the "blocked" behavior as pretty disciplined. Most guys are too lazy to say it and know any additional syllables crap up a busy frequency. There are times when ATC is really busy and one can tell that they don't realize their last clearance was blocked, and as mentioned, is followed by a "listen up" bark as if the call sign was ignored and not blocked.
09-28-2016, 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by cardiomd
I think you missed the joke - it was likely the guard guy that was fooling around with Delta "authorizing" their push on guard, and then finally saying "you're on guard". At least that's how I read it.
09-28-2016, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by cardiomd
All guard police are tools and that is a nationwide thing in my experience.
I'm wondering what the reception would be if I posted on a doctor's forum.
09-28-2016, 09:27 AM
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I have found that more often than not, miscommunication, for whatever reason, is best sorted out directly between the parties involved and that "help" from parties outside the discussion, whether intended to actually be helpful or not, usually doesn't help.
09-28-2016, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by cardiomd
The blaaaccccked people are mostly doing it on approach freqs. One day I'll record it and put it on youtube, some of the really bad stuff I'm sure you'll agree the "blaaacccckkkeedd" was not helping at all.
09-28-2016, 10:03 AM
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Ask any controller and they will tell you they hate it when the hear "blocked" If they don't get a response from the aircraft they are trying to contact, they will try again in a few seconds. They don't need help from any one else.
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