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Old 09-27-2016 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by encore
Sooner or later something really bad is going to happen because of these guard idiots.
Well in this case, actually...it was the 'YER ON GUARD' guy that prevented Delta from an unauthorized push...
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Old 09-27-2016 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by cardiomd
Think about why they might not do that on an extremely busy channel.

But yeah I guess it wasn't tool of the day worthy, more tool-of-the-hour. You heard the block and then the "blooocked" guy blocks another call. Going into kpwk was incredibly annoying.

I'll admit it's a very subjective situation, I believe your case. If it ever gets like the Guard Cops, it will be TOTD worthy.

Above FL180 and airline ops, I'd rank the "blocked" behavior as pretty disciplined. Most guys are too lazy to say it and know any additional syllables crap up a busy frequency. There are times when ATC is really busy and one can tell that they don't realize their last clearance was blocked, and as mentioned, is followed by a "listen up" bark as if the call sign was ignored and not blocked.
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Old 09-28-2016 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbosina
Well in this case, actually...it was the 'YER ON GUARD' guy that prevented Delta from an unauthorized push...
I think you missed the joke - it was likely the guard guy that was fooling around with Delta "authorizing" their push on guard, and then finally saying "you're on guard". At least that's how I read it.

All guard police are tools and that is a nationwide thing in my experience.

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I'll admit it's a very subjective situation, I believe your case. If it ever gets like the Guard Cops, it will be TOTD worthy.

Above FL180 and airline ops, I'd rank the "blocked" behavior as pretty disciplined. Most guys are too lazy to say it and know any additional syllables crap up a busy frequency. There are times when ATC is really busy and one can tell that they don't realize their last clearance was blocked, and as mentioned, is followed by a "listen up" bark as if the call sign was ignored and not blocked.
Yeah, us low flyers will occasionally get TEC but usually I'm talking to center especially when high but still below the flight levels. The blaaaccccked people are mostly doing it on approach freqs. One day I'll record it and put it on youtube, some of the really bad stuff I'm sure you'll agree the "blaaacccckkkeedd" was not helping at all.
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Old 09-28-2016 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by cardiomd
I think you missed the joke - it was likely the guard guy that was fooling around with Delta "authorizing" their push on guard, and then finally saying "you're on guard". At least that's how I read it.
And I think you weren't there, and don't know what you're talking about. The guy who responded with the push clearance was a different guy from the one who reminded everyone that they were on Guard.
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Old 09-28-2016 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by cardiomd
All guard police are tools and that is a nationwide thing in my experience.
And non-airline pilots that continuously pontificate on an AIRLINE PILOT forum are what then?!

I'm wondering what the reception would be if I posted on a doctor's forum.
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Old 09-28-2016 | 09:27 AM
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I have found that more often than not, miscommunication, for whatever reason, is best sorted out directly between the parties involved and that "help" from parties outside the discussion, whether intended to actually be helpful or not, usually doesn't help.
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Old 09-28-2016 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by cardiomd
The blaaaccccked people are mostly doing it on approach freqs. One day I'll record it and put it on youtube, some of the really bad stuff I'm sure you'll agree the "blaaacccckkkeedd" was not helping at all.
Don't know why you had to go racial on us...
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Old 09-28-2016 | 10:03 AM
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Ask any controller and they will tell you they hate it when the hear "blocked" If they don't get a response from the aircraft they are trying to contact, they will try again in a few seconds. They don't need help from any one else.
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Old 09-28-2016 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by potatochip
don't know why you had to go racial on us...
Controller's Lives Matter
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Old 09-28-2016 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by maddogmax
Ask any controller and they will tell you they hate it when the hear "blocked" If they don't get a response from the aircraft they are trying to contact, they will try again in a few seconds. They don't need help from any one else.
Then why do they occasionally ask aircraft to try to contact other aircraft...or check frequency readability and signal strength. (Most guys have no clue what that is and just say 5 by 5 if they can hear it.

Pilots don't know how many frequencies a controller is working, and sometimes a pilot and a controller are stepping on each other, hearing "blocked" usually indicates to other pilots to listen up to the controller and there are times the controller has no idea he is getting blocked and then gets ****ed. if nobody says "blocked" the controller will finally get a word in and then sometimes will say something to the effect of "callsign xxxx third call contact....." when in fact it's the fault of some reject racist doctor in a 182 that doesn't know when to just listen.
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