Tool of the day
09-26-2016, 06:14 PM
#8651
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Today's tool - the fools that say "BLOOOCKED" in a funny voice right after a stepped on transmit. Yeah sometimes center or approach gets crowded but also keep in mind a "blocked" transmission may have still been receivable by ATC from the nearer transmission station, or the craft receiving, even though it was more balanced interference to you. A third party always piping up "blocked" just makes things worse and sometimes itself blocks the response to one of the transmitters. This is rampant and seems to get worse in crowded areas. 
09-26-2016, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by cardiomd
Today's tool - the fools that say "BLOOOCKED" in a funny voice right after a stepped on transmit. Yeah sometimes center or approach gets crowded but also keep in mind a "blocked" transmission may have still been receivable by ATC from the nearer transmission station, or the craft receiving, even though it was more balanced interference to you. A third party always piping up "blocked" just makes things worse and sometimes itself blocks the response to one of the transmitters. This is rampant and seems to get worse in crowded areas.
09-26-2016, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
Maybe it's different down there where you spend your time, Doc.
(you even get bonus points for not mentioning how proficient you are at flying your 182)
09-26-2016, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
Yes, and the majority of the time it also helps controllers know that their transmission was in fact blocked.
09-27-2016, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
Yes, and the majority of the time it also helps controllers know that their transmission was in fact blocked. At least that's the way it seems to work on the high altitude sectors. Maybe it's different down there where you spend your time, Doc.
09-27-2016, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by cornbeef007
Have you asked a center controller if it really helps? In reality there is more going on then just you and the frequency you are on. Majority is a little strong....
IMHO, when nobody says it after a block or two, it's not uncommon to hear a whiny "Everybody listen up" from ATC when it happens.
Even more important at busy hubs on Gound and Tower. I never hear ATC criticizing a "BLOCKED" call or even remember hearing something like "We are aware" or state they knew a block happen.
When it does happen, it's extremely rare that a single Cessna is in the mix. IMHO, this is a small percentage of "Tool Worthy" behavior with the cutesy accent, but necessary to safe ops. The call obviously has to be done quickly and not overused.
Carry on.
09-27-2016, 09:57 AM
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The guy on Guard in SOCAL this morning who responded to Delta's inadvertent call for push. It went like this:
DL XXX: "Ground, Delta XXX, push with Mike." (on Guard).
Guy: "Morning Delta, you're cleared to push."
DL XXX: "Cleared to push, Delta XXX."
Fortunately someone jumped on and said "Yer on GUARD."
I will admit, however, that it was kinda funny. It would have been less funny had it been a takeoff clearance...
DL XXX: "Ground, Delta XXX, push with Mike." (on Guard).
Guy: "Morning Delta, you're cleared to push."
DL XXX: "Cleared to push, Delta XXX."
Fortunately someone jumped on and said "Yer on GUARD."
I will admit, however, that it was kinda funny. It would have been less funny had it been a takeoff clearance...
09-27-2016, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbosina
The guy on Guard in SOCAL this morning who responded to Delta's inadvertent call for push. It went like this:
DL XXX: "Ground, Delta XXX, push with Mike." (on Guard).
Guy: "Morning Delta, you're cleared to push."
DL XXX: "Cleared to push, Delta XXX."
Fortunately someone jumped on and said "Yer on GUARD."
I will admit, however, that it was kinda funny. It would have been less funny had it been a takeoff clearance...
DL XXX: "Ground, Delta XXX, push with Mike." (on Guard).
Guy: "Morning Delta, you're cleared to push."
DL XXX: "Cleared to push, Delta XXX."
Fortunately someone jumped on and said "Yer on GUARD."
I will admit, however, that it was kinda funny. It would have been less funny had it been a takeoff clearance...
Once I was monitoring guard and a Cessna declared an emergency... engine failure... said he was landing in a field and tried to relay that he needed emergency equipment sent that direction.
The response? "YOURE ON GUARD!!!"
Made steam come out of my ears. Luckily he got on and said he was down and safe. But this transmission could've made the difference in this guy's survival.
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