Tool of the day
08-15-2016 | 05:36 PM
#8612
Line Holder
Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 336
Likes: 2
08-15-2016 | 06:58 PM
#8613
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Aug 2015
Posts: 2,635
Likes: 583
From: Guppy Gear Slinger
08-15-2016 | 07:39 PM
#8615
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 2,159
Likes: 1
When a pilot pops his head in and says "hey guys I'm bob with xyz, they gave me a seat in back, here's my ID and the captain copy slip" are you guys really saying "Whoah Whoah Whoah ice man let me see your medical and atp"? For the record I always have it ready to go but in my experience this has been like 1/100.
2. It's a professional courtesy to have it handy.
3. The CA is supposed to be mentoring his/her FO. Great opportunity for the CA to show some class and handle this introduction and interaction the right way.
The CA may only look at it for a second. But that checks the box. Security is still a big deal, so expect some Captains to ask a few questions about your airplane and/or operation/domicile.
08-15-2016 | 08:11 PM
#8616
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 262
Likes: 0
From: Grp Cpt
1. It's required by every 121 operator that I know of.
2. It's a professional courtesy to have it handy.
3. The CA is supposed to be mentoring his/her FO. Great opportunity for the CA to show some class and handle this introduction and interaction the right way.
The CA may only look at it for a second. But that checks the box. Security is still a big deal, so expect some Captains to ask a few questions about your airplane and/or operation/domicile.
2. It's a professional courtesy to have it handy.
3. The CA is supposed to be mentoring his/her FO. Great opportunity for the CA to show some class and handle this introduction and interaction the right way.
The CA may only look at it for a second. But that checks the box. Security is still a big deal, so expect some Captains to ask a few questions about your airplane and/or operation/domicile.
I am over being lectured on this issue. It says specifically in our FOM that jumpseat riders flowing back to the cabin are not required to provide credentials to the PIC. You might review yours as well. And if you are the guy quizzing a commuter about his job/aircraft/whatever to "prove he is really a pilot" that is just plain wrong.
08-16-2016 | 04:56 AM
#8618
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 324
Likes: 0
From: Just because the MEL says we can, doesn't mean we should
I am over being lectured on this issue. It says specifically in our FOM that jumpseat riders flowing back to the cabin are not required to provide credentials to the PIC. You might review yours as well. And if you are the guy quizzing a commuter about his job/aircraft/whatever to "prove he is really a pilot" that is just plain wrong.
08-16-2016 | 08:15 AM
#8619
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 6,572
Likes: 331
From: Sitting SC at the Five Towns
08-16-2016 | 08:32 AM
#8620
Prime Minister/Moderator
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 45,164
Likes: 803
From: Engines Turn or People Swim
Our SOP is a bit vague and may contradict itself as to whether a cabin jumpseater needs all the paperwork. SOP is clear that they do need to check in with the CA.
I don't check the docs for a cabin jumpseater because I don't think anyone cares, and the SOP probably did not intend that. But I wouldn't blame someone who felt the need to dot i's and cross t's either.
When I get a 135 pilot I do check our reciprocal list, because half the time they're not on it. While I might let such a person in the cabin, no way are they sitting in the actual. It pizzes me off that they even ask because they know darn well whether they have an agreement with us, and they should know I could get fired for letting a random non-authorized person in the cockpit.
I don't check the docs for a cabin jumpseater because I don't think anyone cares, and the SOP probably did not intend that. But I wouldn't blame someone who felt the need to dot i's and cross t's either.
When I get a 135 pilot I do check our reciprocal list, because half the time they're not on it. While I might let such a person in the cabin, no way are they sitting in the actual. It pizzes me off that they even ask because they know darn well whether they have an agreement with us, and they should know I could get fired for letting a random non-authorized person in the cockpit.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
