Tool of the day
04-01-2016, 09:42 AM
#8114
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Joined APC: Nov 2005
Position: B777 Left
Posts: 736
Originally Posted by coopervane
I have a nomination for tool of the day
My neighbor and friend of 10 years, also a Delta pilot.
I have had an app in at Delta for over 10 years. I recently wanted to refresh my online app by updating my LOR'S. So I ask my "good buddy" if he would be willing to update his LOR for me. He says NO......Why?
Because 4 years ago, We went on vacation with him and his wife. A bareboat charter. Because we had planned it for over 6 months and I couldn't get the week off at my crappy regional, I called in sick.
So he can't "in good conscience" recommend anyone who would abuse sick policy.
THAT is where the term "douchbag" originates from
My neighbor and friend of 10 years, also a Delta pilot.
I have had an app in at Delta for over 10 years. I recently wanted to refresh my online app by updating my LOR'S. So I ask my "good buddy" if he would be willing to update his LOR for me. He says NO......Why?
Because 4 years ago, We went on vacation with him and his wife. A bareboat charter. Because we had planned it for over 6 months and I couldn't get the week off at my crappy regional, I called in sick.
So he can't "in good conscience" recommend anyone who would abuse sick policy.
THAT is where the term "douchbag" originates from
But secondly, you lie to your employer about your situation. Did you happen to call the pilots that may have been called out on reserve or given a "junior assignment" and explain the situation and apologize? Thought not. No matter how crappy your regional was, where were your ethics? Was that week off a "right"? I guess it was in the new age of entitlement.
Can't blame him for not updating a LOR for you, but he should have had the 'nads to tell you to your face over the last four years. That was toolish. But IMO, your behavior was just as toolish for basically lying to your employer and someone had to pick up your slack.
04-01-2016, 10:05 AM
#8115
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Joined APC: Jun 2015
Position: 320/A
Posts: 875
Originally Posted by coopervane
I have a nomination for tool of the day
My neighbor and friend of 10 years, also a Delta pilot.
I have had an app in at Delta for over 10 years. I recently wanted to refresh my online app by updating my LOR'S. So I ask my "good buddy" if he would be willing to update his LOR for me. He says NO......Why?
Because 4 years ago, We went on vacation with him and his wife. A bareboat charter. Because we had planned it for over 6 months and I couldn't get the week off at my crappy regional, I called in sick.
So he can't "in good conscience" recommend anyone who would abuse sick policy.
THAT is where the term "douchbag" originates from
My neighbor and friend of 10 years, also a Delta pilot.
I have had an app in at Delta for over 10 years. I recently wanted to refresh my online app by updating my LOR'S. So I ask my "good buddy" if he would be willing to update his LOR for me. He says NO......Why?
Because 4 years ago, We went on vacation with him and his wife. A bareboat charter. Because we had planned it for over 6 months and I couldn't get the week off at my crappy regional, I called in sick.
So he can't "in good conscience" recommend anyone who would abuse sick policy.
THAT is where the term "douchbag" originates from
The situation reminds me of a security clearance poster at a government project I used to work on; "Sure he's your buddy, but does he need to know?" Perhaps your wife should know, so she doesn't screw up a phone contact from the company. Aside from that, all your neighbor, kids and pals at work needed to know is that you scored the time off after relentless effort. Of course how you got to said bareboat charter location would be a tricky business at my carrier, as I believe they now have access to information outside of your own pass riding; think ZED Fare, CASS, maybe even KCM. All I'm saying is you can't be too careful.
All that said, your neighbor is indeed a major tool. Find another DL friend and pull this guy's 4th of July barbecue invitation. If his wife looks like the thumbnail in your profile (your wife?), she's still invited!
04-01-2016, 10:20 AM
#8116
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Joined APC: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,476
Originally Posted by Skyone
Help me out here. I'm a bit confused, first in him not saying anything to you four years ago when you decided to write your own rules, seems a bit toolish, if he truly felt that way.
But secondly, you lie to your employer about your situation. Did you happen to call the pilots that may have been called out on reserve or given a "junior assignment" and explain the situation and apologize? Thought not. No matter how crappy your regional was, where were your ethics? Was that week off a "right"? I guess it was in the new age of entitlement.
Can't blame him for not updating a LOR for you, but he should have had the 'nads to tell you to your face over the last four years. That was toolish. But IMO, your behavior was just as toolish for basically lying to your employer and someone had to pick up your slack.
But secondly, you lie to your employer about your situation. Did you happen to call the pilots that may have been called out on reserve or given a "junior assignment" and explain the situation and apologize? Thought not. No matter how crappy your regional was, where were your ethics? Was that week off a "right"? I guess it was in the new age of entitlement.
Can't blame him for not updating a LOR for you, but he should have had the 'nads to tell you to your face over the last four years. That was toolish. But IMO, your behavior was just as toolish for basically lying to your employer and someone had to pick up your slack.
04-01-2016, 10:52 AM
#8117
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Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 4,671
Originally Posted by Skyone
Help me out here. I'm a bit confused, first in him not saying anything to you four years ago when you decided to write your own rules, seems a bit toolish, if he truly felt that way.
But secondly, you lie to your employer about your situation. Did you happen to call the pilots that may have been called out on reserve or given a "junior assignment" and explain the situation and apologize? Thought not. No matter how crappy your regional was, where were your ethics? Was that week off a "right"? I guess it was in the new age of entitlement.
Can't blame him for not updating a LOR for you, but he should have had the 'nads to tell you to your face over the last four years. That was toolish. But IMO, your behavior was just as toolish for basically lying to your employer and someone had to pick up your slack.
But secondly, you lie to your employer about your situation. Did you happen to call the pilots that may have been called out on reserve or given a "junior assignment" and explain the situation and apologize? Thought not. No matter how crappy your regional was, where were your ethics? Was that week off a "right"? I guess it was in the new age of entitlement.
Can't blame him for not updating a LOR for you, but he should have had the 'nads to tell you to your face over the last four years. That was toolish. But IMO, your behavior was just as toolish for basically lying to your employer and someone had to pick up your slack.
People can write a rec letter for whomever then choose, or NOT write one. Their option.
But I wonder if said pilot ever did the SAME EXACT THING THEMSELVES over the course of their career?
You know, called in sick when they weren't really sick, lied to their employer, called the reserve pilot(s) to see how their lives were impacted by said absence, maybe boasted about it to the people they were with on said sick call. You know, "ethics".
Maybe they did, maybe they didn't. Just sayin'.......
If said pilot didn't/never had to self augment their schedule for whatever reason, good for them.
04-01-2016, 12:37 PM
#8119
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Joined APC: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,533
Originally Posted by Skyone
Help me out here. I'm a bit confused, first in him not saying anything to you four years ago when you decided to write your own rules, seems a bit toolish, if he truly felt that way.
But secondly, you lie to your employer about your situation. Did you happen to call the pilots that may have been called out on reserve or given a "junior assignment" and explain the situation and apologize? Thought not. No matter how crappy your regional was, where were your ethics? Was that week off a "right"? I guess it was in the new age of entitlement.
Can't blame him for not updating a LOR for you, but he should have had the 'nads to tell you to your face over the last four years. That was toolish. But IMO, your behavior was just as toolish for basically lying to your employer and someone had to pick up your slack.
But secondly, you lie to your employer about your situation. Did you happen to call the pilots that may have been called out on reserve or given a "junior assignment" and explain the situation and apologize? Thought not. No matter how crappy your regional was, where were your ethics? Was that week off a "right"? I guess it was in the new age of entitlement.
Can't blame him for not updating a LOR for you, but he should have had the 'nads to tell you to your face over the last four years. That was toolish. But IMO, your behavior was just as toolish for basically lying to your employer and someone had to pick up your slack.
Some poor reserve pilot may have actually been called to fly?! Oh the humanity!
How about all of the unethical decisions made by all levels of management day in and day out, but you're worried about a guy calling in sick after exhausting all avenues to get the time off so as NOT to throw away his money so that he can fly his trip at his regional airline.
I nominate YOU for TOTD. You must be a joy to fly with.
"Hey, put away that non-company reading material!"
04-01-2016, 01:31 PM
#8120
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Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: B-737NG preferably in first class with a glass of champagne and caviar
Posts: 5,912
Originally Posted by 450knotOffice
Wow!!! Unless you are the theoretical perfect God-like human being, you have have made questionably unethical decisions in your life, so get off your judgemental high horse.
Some poor reserve pilot may have actually been called to fly?! Oh the humanity!
How about all of the unethical decisions made by all levels of management day in and day out, but you're worried about a guy calling in sick after exhausting all avenues to get the time off so as NOT to throw away his money so that he can fly his trip at his regional airline.
I nominate YOU for TOTD. You must be a joy to fly with.
"Hey, put away that non-company reading material!"
Some poor reserve pilot may have actually been called to fly?! Oh the humanity!
How about all of the unethical decisions made by all levels of management day in and day out, but you're worried about a guy calling in sick after exhausting all avenues to get the time off so as NOT to throw away his money so that he can fly his trip at his regional airline.
I nominate YOU for TOTD. You must be a joy to fly with.
"Hey, put away that non-company reading material!"
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