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08-09-2016, 05:29 PM
#8531
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Joined APC: Jan 2006
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Posts: 39,261
Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Les Abend latest article's last two paragraphs. Perhaps not TOTD material, mostly the truth about his airline, but it is surprising he can write that and get away with it. I can think of several airlines in which that is a no-no and can get called in for it.
Plus he's high enough profile that if AA disciplined or fired him it would likely blow up in their face in a very public manner. I think they'll just bite the bullet on this one.
08-09-2016, 06:47 PM
#8532
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Joined APC: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,533
Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Les Abend latest article's last two paragraphs. Perhaps not TOTD material, mostly the truth about his airline, but it is surprising he can write that and get away with it. I can think of several airlines in which that is a no-no and can get called in for it.
Originally Posted by rickair7777
Les is probably near retirement, and can fall back on some union protections in any case.
Plus he's high enough profile that if AA disciplined or fired him it would likely blow up in their face in a very public manner. I think they'll just bite the bullet on this one.
Plus he's high enough profile that if AA disciplined or fired him it would likely blow up in their face in a very public manner. I think they'll just bite the bullet on this one.
I feel his pain, though. We've all been there.
08-09-2016, 07:41 PM
#8533
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Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: B-737NG preferably in first class with a glass of champagne and caviar
Posts: 5,909
Originally Posted by 450knotOffice
Millenial? I'm FAR from it. 52 years old for me. You guys are totally missing this guy's point, which is: if someone - anyone - says something nice to you, don't be rude and fail to acknowlege them. It's just impolite. MY mother and father taught me to smile and acknowlege people when they speak to me. If one is standing there and greeting someone and/or says something nice, then the other should smile or say thank you, or whatever. It's flat out rude to not respond to someone greeting you. Yes, I understand that some people may have someting horrible on their mind, but let's face it, most do not at any given time. To NOT respond gives off the impression that somehow this is the old British Caste system in which one does not acknowlege someone of a lower Caste becasue, well, they're just not worthy enough to be responded to or acknkowleged. They're beneath you.
The original poster of that comment who you are so quick to judge made it clear in subsequent posts that he was referring to basic common politeness, something which eveidently escapes many of you.
The original poster of that comment who you are so quick to judge made it clear in subsequent posts that he was referring to basic common politeness, something which eveidently escapes many of you.
Is really worth getting one's knickers in a twist over? I mean come on. I'm going to my safe place because that mean old jump seater didn't say hello, goodbye or thanks :-(''''. Very presumptive and arrogant of you sir to state that politeness escapes many service employees. What's your suggestion 450... Run up the jet bridge and slap sum politeness into the rude ruffian? Place and label his picture on a special Facebook page?
Not returning a salutation is not always deliberate. Many reasons have been pointed out in previous posts.
Such as life. Enjoy your day and hopefull you're not faced with more threatening issues such as no breadsticks to go with your crew meal.
08-09-2016, 10:35 PM
#8534
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Joined APC: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,533
Whatever, man. It's a discussion. Nothing more. When I see people do what the OP discribed, I simply roll my eyes, look at the FA in the galley with that "what a douchebag" look, and move on. Nothing more.
Doesn't mean I don't think people like the guy he described are rude. Do it once? Whatever. Do it twice on one flight? Angry, rude guy. Eye roll from me, then moving on.
Will I discuss this rudeness on a forum? You bet. It's a FORUM. What else are we supposed to do in here?
Doesn't mean I don't think people like the guy he described are rude. Do it once? Whatever. Do it twice on one flight? Angry, rude guy. Eye roll from me, then moving on.
Will I discuss this rudeness on a forum? You bet. It's a FORUM. What else are we supposed to do in here?
08-10-2016, 06:10 AM
#8535
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Joined APC: Jun 2006
Position: A320
Posts: 1,347
I think a lot of it has to do with being in the trenches at a regional and thinking that someday it will all be sunshine and rainbows when that major calls.
Then you run into someone at a major more miserable than you are. Suddenly your whole life plan takes a nosedive.
Frankly I'm surprised people are defending someone without any common courtesy. If I wave I expect to be waved back at. If I say hello and you ignore me I dislike you. Why shouldn't someone be upset for the same scenario on their own aircraft?
Then you run into someone at a major more miserable than you are. Suddenly your whole life plan takes a nosedive.
Frankly I'm surprised people are defending someone without any common courtesy. If I wave I expect to be waved back at. If I say hello and you ignore me I dislike you. Why shouldn't someone be upset for the same scenario on their own aircraft?
08-10-2016, 06:25 AM
#8536
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Joined APC: Aug 2012
Posts: 1,026
Originally Posted by labbats
I think a lot of it has to do with being in the trenches at a regional and thinking that someday it will all be sunshine and rainbows when that major calls.
Then you run into someone at a major more miserable than you are. Suddenly your whole life plan takes a nosedive.
Frankly I'm surprised people are defending someone without any common courtesy. If I wave I expect to be waved back at. If I say hello and you ignore me I dislike you. Why shouldn't someone be upset for the same scenario on their own aircraft?
Then you run into someone at a major more miserable than you are. Suddenly your whole life plan takes a nosedive.
Frankly I'm surprised people are defending someone without any common courtesy. If I wave I expect to be waved back at. If I say hello and you ignore me I dislike you. Why shouldn't someone be upset for the same scenario on their own aircraft?
Just a touch of common courtesy requiring oh, maybe say; a two second courtesy acknowledgement to the greeting is the courteous and polite thing to do.
Asking to much? Seems to be anymore.
08-12-2016, 01:09 PM
#8537
Bye Bye Maddog!
Joined APC: Apr 2008
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Posts: 560
Originally Posted by Turbosina
Good point, you're absolutely right. If my wife had passed 5 days prior I wouldn't be able to drive myself to the airport, let alone fly an airplane...
After all the (little) paperwork was done, I'd be back at work looking for #5.
08-12-2016, 05:34 PM
#8538
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Joined APC: Aug 2015
Position: Guppy Gear Slinger
Posts: 1,850
Originally Posted by Piklepausepull
Not me!
After all the (little) paperwork was done, I'd be back at work looking for #5.
After all the (little) paperwork was done, I'd be back at work looking for #5.
08-13-2016, 11:33 AM
#8540
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Joined APC: Apr 2015
Posts: 857
IMO if you're not sitting up front, who cares? All this show of appreciation etiquette stuff seems pretty self-serving to me. Don't pilots feel special enough? I recently heard a story of a regional FO rushing to the near-empty cabin to reprimand a JS who didn't "check in" up front. Since when do FOs making $25/hr care about this anyway?? I thought people usually checked in with the CA..
Dumb traditions like this get people butthurt over nothing. If you get a seat in the back, even if you filled out a jumpseat form to get it, you earned that seat just the same as any passenger... Take a seat and enjoy the ride. Oh and be nice to the flight attendant
Dumb traditions like this get people butthurt over nothing. If you get a seat in the back, even if you filled out a jumpseat form to get it, you earned that seat just the same as any passenger... Take a seat and enjoy the ride. Oh and be nice to the flight attendant
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