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Old 03-22-2016, 06:57 PM
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I figured the mods would have kicked him long ago for complete ignorance and insulting arrogance in nearly every post, but then realized his click numbers on the wannabee ads on this site must be off the charts.

FFDO debate? Not anymore, I tried to reason and got nothing in return but irrational generalities and condescending responses from a little plane pilot that has demonstrated that he doesn't have access to info on security limitations surrounding the issue. Look at his "armed ER" example. If there is a threat, a cop or security can be there unlike on most flights.

APC keeps letting posters like this in, have fun, I'm gone. They offer nothing for those of us who actually fly for a living. Take a look at PPrune. That place is run amok with enthusiasts and wannabees. Getting good info there is nearly impossible.

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Old 03-22-2016, 08:17 PM
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Guns have no place in the cockpit. The vast majority of pilots agree with me, the rest post angrily here.
I'm not sure that's entirely accurate.
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Old 03-23-2016, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by BIGRIG View Post
I'm not sure that's entirely accurate.
I can guarantee that is not accurate. Quite the opposite. The vast majority are either okay with it even if they don't want to go through the training, fully support it but don't want the hassle placed upon them, or are part of the program.

Im not sure why some people are on this forum. This place is called airline pilot central. Not quack central.
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Old 03-23-2016, 07:54 AM
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>>I find explaining why a gun is not useful in the cockpit similar to explaining to laypersons why a (personal) parachute is not useful in my plane, or in an airliner.<<

You ARE the layperson.
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Old 03-23-2016, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Firsttimeflyer View Post
I can guarantee that is not accurate. Quite the opposite. The vast majority are either okay with it even if they don't want to go through the training, fully support it but don't want the hassle placed upon them, or are part of the program.

Im not sure why some people are on this forum. This place is called airline pilot central. Not quack central.
Couldn't agree more.
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Old 03-26-2016, 03:29 PM
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I know things like this have been posted here time and again. But, I never thought I'd be living it or ever making a post under this thread.

Here I am in shorts, boat shoes and a T shirt (orange lanyard and "I Am Investment Grade" tag attached to my non-crew looking carry-on) with my family getting seated on a Delta MD-90 in RSW. Why so casual? Because I can! I'm riding real-deal tickets, since nonreving throughout FL in spring break season is a nightmare. But I digress. The captain makes a welcome PA using his full name and that of the "assisting" FO. "We are both former U.S. Navy pilots with over 43 years of combined professional aviation experience to get you safely to Atlanta today." No orange either.

Captain of DL 2427 on 3/26/2016, you may be a dandy pilot, blessed with a stellar assistant. But, you sir, are a tool!
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Old 03-26-2016, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by zippinbye View Post
I know things like this have been posted here time and again. But, I never thought I'd be living it or ever making a post under this thread.

Here I am in shorts, boat shoes and a T shirt (orange lanyard and "I Am Investment Grade" tag attached to my non-crew looking carry-on) with my family getting seated on a Delta MD-90 in RSW. Why so casual? Because I can! I'm riding real-deal tickets, since nonreving throughout FL in spring break season is a nightmare. But I digress. The captain makes a welcome PA using his full name and that of the "assisting" FO. "We are both former U.S. Navy pilots with over 43 years of combined professional aviation experience to get you safely to Atlanta today." No orange either.

Captain of DL 2427 on 3/26/2016, you may be a dandy pilot, blessed with a stellar assistant. But, you sir, are a tool!
What did he say when you asked him about the lack of orange?
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Old 03-26-2016, 04:25 PM
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What did he say when you asked him about the lack of orange?
I've asked a couple pilots. Pretty consistent answer. They say wearing the lanyard isn't going to help negotiations. Some will add that it's against company policy and job is too good to risk. One said he never wears lanyards and isn't going to start now.
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Old 03-26-2016, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Doug Masters View Post
What did he say when you asked him about the lack of orange?
Honestly, that query was on my mind for the deplaning process. But wife had my nads on lock-down (as I uttered the word "seriously?" And rolled my eyes five seconds into the PA, she said "play like a big boy and don't taunt the pilots.") 😎

I knew captain fantastic was flying due to the F/Os voice on all the eroute PAs - which BTW were everyday sensible PAs. It was light turbulence for 80% of the flight. Lady across the aisle yacked two bags full and I gave her mine for the next round. I can't assess blame for the bumps, since I believe the area was pretty much that way. But I had to smile at the high-G landing. Biggest slam I have experienced in a few years. Reliving the carrier days I guess.
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Old 03-26-2016, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by zippinbye View Post
Here I am in shorts, boat shoes and a T shirt (orange lanyard and "I Am Investment Grade" tag attached to my non-crew looking carry-on) with my family getting seated on a Delta MD-90 in RSW. Why so casual? Because I can! I'm riding real-deal tickets, since nonreving throughout FL in spring break season is a nightmare. But I digress. The captain makes a welcome PA using his full name and that of the "assisting" FO. "We are both former U.S. Navy pilots with over 43 years of combined professional aviation experience to get you safely to Atlanta today." No orange either.

Captain of DL 2427 on 3/26/2016, you may be a dandy pilot, blessed with a stellar assistant. But, you sir, are a tool!
What do you find more toolish.... the non orange lanyard, or the PA. After all, the travelling public is clueless about the lanyard and issues the union have with the airline... being a F/O would it really be a good career move to query a Captain as to why no lanyard... just curious.
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