Tool of the day
03-26-2016, 09:47 PM
#8041
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Originally Posted by captjns
What do you find more toolish.... the non orange lanyard, or the PA. After all, the travelling public is clueless about the lanyard and issues the union have with the airline... being a F/O would it really be a good career move to query a Captain as to why no lanyard... just curious.
03-26-2016, 09:51 PM
#8042
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Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: C47 PIC/747-400 SIC
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Why wouldn't it be? There was a bit of education from the right seat at my place of work, a decent CBA was the result. Things like lanyards are small but crucial steps towards that elusive goal called unity. Without it a pilot group will never achieve anything.
03-27-2016, 09:57 AM
#8043
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Joined APC: Jan 2007
Posts: 610
Originally Posted by zippinbye
I know things like this have been posted here time and again. But, I never thought I'd be living it or ever making a post under this thread.
Here I am in shorts, boat shoes and a T shirt (orange lanyard and "I Am Investment Grade" tag attached to my non-crew looking carry-on) with my family getting seated on a Delta MD-90 in RSW. Why so casual? Because I can! I'm riding real-deal tickets, since nonreving throughout FL in spring break season is a nightmare. But I digress. The captain makes a welcome PA using his full name and that of the "assisting" FO. "We are both former U.S. Navy pilots with over 43 years of combined professional aviation experience to get you safely to Atlanta today." No orange either.
Captain of DL 2427 on 3/26/2016, you may be a dandy pilot, blessed with a stellar assistant. But, you sir, are a tool!
Here I am in shorts, boat shoes and a T shirt (orange lanyard and "I Am Investment Grade" tag attached to my non-crew looking carry-on) with my family getting seated on a Delta MD-90 in RSW. Why so casual? Because I can! I'm riding real-deal tickets, since nonreving throughout FL in spring break season is a nightmare. But I digress. The captain makes a welcome PA using his full name and that of the "assisting" FO. "We are both former U.S. Navy pilots with over 43 years of combined professional aviation experience to get you safely to Atlanta today." No orange either.
Captain of DL 2427 on 3/26/2016, you may be a dandy pilot, blessed with a stellar assistant. But, you sir, are a tool!
That nonsense needs to stop right away! Really?? Get over yourselves!
03-27-2016, 11:16 AM
#8044
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Joined APC: May 2010
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Originally Posted by f10a
On 2 delta md90 flights today through ATL with both captains announcing who was "assisting" them. Best part was one of names was Capt oTool! Haha!
That nonsense needs to stop right away! Really?? Get over yourselves!
That nonsense needs to stop right away! Really?? Get over yourselves!
However, I just flew with a "our mil background, I am assisted by PA" retired 0-6 fighter guy. Gave the most ridiculously long briefs /PAs I have witnessed. But you know what, he was on of the nicest guys I have flown with. Did the walk around on my legs and didn't say **** when I was flying. He bought all the beer and was a pleasure to hang with. Aside from the "between the 2 of us we have xx years flying" it was a great trip.
03-27-2016, 11:23 AM
#8045
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Originally Posted by duece12345
Unfortunately there is a lot of that at mother D.
However, I just flew with a "our mil background, I am assisted by PA" retired 0-6 fighter guy. Gave the most ridiculously long briefs /PAs I have witnessed. But you know what, he was on of the nicest guys I have flown with. Did the walk around on my legs and didn't say **** when I was flying. He bought all the beer and was a pleasure to hang with. Aside from the "between the 2 of us we have xx years flying" it was a great trip.
However, I just flew with a "our mil background, I am assisted by PA" retired 0-6 fighter guy. Gave the most ridiculously long briefs /PAs I have witnessed. But you know what, he was on of the nicest guys I have flown with. Did the walk around on my legs and didn't say **** when I was flying. He bought all the beer and was a pleasure to hang with. Aside from the "between the 2 of us we have xx years flying" it was a great trip.
03-27-2016, 11:27 AM
#8046
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Originally Posted by duece12345
Unfortunately there is a lot of that at mother D.
However, I just flew with a "our mil background, I am assisted by PA" retired 0-6 fighter guy. Gave the most ridiculously long briefs /PAs I have witnessed. But you know what, he was on of the nicest guys I have flown with. Did the walk around on my legs and didn't say **** when I was flying. He bought all the beer and was a pleasure to hang with. Aside from the "between the 2 of us we have xx years flying" it was a great trip.
However, I just flew with a "our mil background, I am assisted by PA" retired 0-6 fighter guy. Gave the most ridiculously long briefs /PAs I have witnessed. But you know what, he was on of the nicest guys I have flown with. Did the walk around on my legs and didn't say **** when I was flying. He bought all the beer and was a pleasure to hang with. Aside from the "between the 2 of us we have xx years flying" it was a great trip.
I fly overseas where an over 65 guy can occupy the right seat. Recently, I flew with a F/O in this category. Our combined experience with the airlines was some 70+ years. We laughed at the prospect of announcing that to the folks in the back. They'd either evacuate the jet or bring us a set of walkers. I find it toolish is that the company required this aviator to surrender his 4th stripe and hat with the scrambled eggs. Once a skipper always a skipper. It's a title that is not to be stripped regardless of age.
It's nice to reminisce and do the math about combined years or aggregate the number of hours in our logs. At the end of the day, do passengers give a rat's a$$? Survey says.... No.
Last edited by captjns; 03-27-2016 at 11:39 AM.
03-27-2016, 02:05 PM
#8047
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Originally Posted by f10a
On 2 delta md90 flights today through ATL with both captains announcing who was "assisting" them. Best part was one of names was Capt oTool! Haha!
That nonsense needs to stop right away! Really?? Get over yourselves!
That nonsense needs to stop right away! Really?? Get over yourselves!
People deal with insecurity in different ways....
03-27-2016, 02:13 PM
#8048
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Originally Posted by zippinbye
The captain makes a welcome PA using his full name and that of the "assisting" FO. "We are both former U.S. Navy pilots with over 43 years of combined professional aviation experience to get you safely to Atlanta today."
03-28-2016, 08:59 AM
#8049
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Joined APC: May 2011
Posts: 66
Had something similar with a UAL Airbus guy who started his PA with "in case you're wondering about your pilots today ... " and then went into a minute long ramble on his time in the military. Woman seated across the aisle from me put it best when she confusingly looked at me and went "are we supposed to care about this?"
03-28-2016, 03:37 PM
#8050
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Position: 320 Fam. FO
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during cruise I gave controls to my CA, telling him I would leave for the lavatory. he said okay fine but insisted that I should pee in the sink instead the toilet bowl, so it would flow overboard right away and we would save on fuel. he had done it for years....
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