Tool of the day
06-19-2016, 06:17 PM
#8401
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Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 10,032
Originally Posted by f10a
Since when did the pax care about the winds? Party cloudy and 80 degrees is all that's needed. They already know anyways from their phones or TV or usa today.
06-19-2016, 06:28 PM
#8402
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Joined APC: Apr 2015
Posts: 857
Originally Posted by f10a
Since when did the pax care about the winds? Party cloudy and 80 degrees is all that's needed. They already know anyways from their phones or TV or usa today.
06-19-2016, 08:26 PM
#8403
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Joined APC: Jul 2006
Position: 767 Pilot
Posts: 1,133
I give temp and maybe if it's windy and perhaps rain or snow. That's it. I make no early morning PA's though. Half of them are sleeping anyway. So my TOTD goes to my FO awhile back. 5:30 am about to push. He asks if I've made a PA. I explain my policy. So he grabs the paperwork and makes a long winded detailed PA about the weather and wind gusts and how high the clouds were. I'm sure he told them our taxi route too. All I could do was stare, and have some words later.
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06-20-2016, 10:20 AM
#8404
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Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Hates Commuting
Posts: 887
Originally Posted by Karloffstall
The captain who pulls out his iPad to show me his new truck equipped with a vanity license plate that says "FLYBOY." Then proceeds to set the best Econ fuel thrust setting in a CRJ over the Rockies on a day when moderate to severe mountain wave is reported, then goes to sleep. Fun day of correcting negative trend vectors, max powering out of decreasing airspeed, and listening to FLYBOY sawing logs in the left seat.
So.... He's asleep, set the thrust to where it needs to be.
So.... The current thrust is inadequate, set the--ah, crap, you know where this is going by now....
FLYBOY may not have been the only tool aboard that flight....
06-20-2016, 10:59 AM
#8405
Line Holder
Joined APC: Mar 2016
Position: 737
Posts: 62
First and foremost I was not the pilot
flying. I was the one montioring this guy trying to milk every penny out of a flight ignoring the common knowledge that slow airspeed that is degrading in mountain wave can be impossible to regain. So why not start out with a safe airspeed with a cushion especially if you're planning on sleeping. I don't care if you sleep, but don't make me clean up your messes because you want to make a couple extra dollars while snoozing. You're a tool if you disagree with that you ignoramus.
flying. I was the one montioring this guy trying to milk every penny out of a flight ignoring the common knowledge that slow airspeed that is degrading in mountain wave can be impossible to regain. So why not start out with a safe airspeed with a cushion especially if you're planning on sleeping. I don't care if you sleep, but don't make me clean up your messes because you want to make a couple extra dollars while snoozing. You're a tool if you disagree with that you ignoramus.
Originally Posted by Jughead135
So.... You're PF, set the thrust to where it needs to be.
So.... He's asleep, set the thrust to where it needs to be.
So.... The current thrust is inadequate, set the--ah, crap, you know where this is going by now....
FLYBOY may not have been the only tool aboard that flight....
So.... He's asleep, set the thrust to where it needs to be.
So.... The current thrust is inadequate, set the--ah, crap, you know where this is going by now....
FLYBOY may not have been the only tool aboard that flight....
06-20-2016, 11:19 AM
#8406
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Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: B-737NG preferably in first class with a glass of champagne and caviar
Posts: 5,902
Originally Posted by Karloffstall
First and foremost I was not the pilot
flying. I was the one montioring this guy trying to milk every penny out of a flight ignoring the common knowledge that slow airspeed that is degrading in mountain wave can be impossible to regain. So why not start out with a safe airspeed with a cushion especially if you're planning on sleeping. I don't care if you sleep, but don't make me clean up your messes because you want to make a couple extra dollars while snoozing. You're a tool if you disagree with that you ignoramus.
flying. I was the one montioring this guy trying to milk every penny out of a flight ignoring the common knowledge that slow airspeed that is degrading in mountain wave can be impossible to regain. So why not start out with a safe airspeed with a cushion especially if you're planning on sleeping. I don't care if you sleep, but don't make me clean up your messes because you want to make a couple extra dollars while snoozing. You're a tool if you disagree with that you ignoramus.
Perhaps, next time, you could wake up the PIC and advise him of the wave action, request a lower altitude to get into denser air. The ride may be crappy, but you margin will be greater.
Can you imagine if a jet upset occurred? Who would be held responsible? Yeah, the PIC, and you'd be looking for a new job too.
06-20-2016, 11:58 AM
#8407
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Joined APC: Mar 2016
Position: 737
Posts: 62
I agree with you and those are good suggestions.
Originally Posted by captjns
Before the name calling and mud slinging goes any further, perhaps this could be a learning experience for you, as a, let say a Captain in Training.
Perhaps, next time, you could wake up the PIC and advise him of the wave action, request a lower altitude to get into denser air. The ride may be crappy, but you margin will be greater.
Can you imagine if a jet upset occurred? Who would be held responsible? Yeah, the PIC, and you'd be looking for a new job too.
Perhaps, next time, you could wake up the PIC and advise him of the wave action, request a lower altitude to get into denser air. The ride may be crappy, but you margin will be greater.
Can you imagine if a jet upset occurred? Who would be held responsible? Yeah, the PIC, and you'd be looking for a new job too.
06-20-2016, 12:09 PM
#8408
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Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Hates Commuting
Posts: 887
Originally Posted by Karloffstall
First and foremost I was not the pilot
flying.
flying.
Originally Posted by Karloffstall
You're a tool if you disagree with that you ignoramus.
06-20-2016, 12:14 PM
#8409
Respek
Joined APC: Jul 2010
Posts: 2,601
Originally Posted by Karloffstall
The captain who pulls out his iPad to show me his new truck equipped with a vanity license plate that says "FLYBOY." Then proceeds to set the best Econ fuel thrust setting in a CRJ over the Rockies on a day when moderate to severe mountain wave is reported, then goes to sleep. Fun day of correcting negative trend vectors, max powering out of decreasing airspeed, and listening to FLYBOY sawing logs in the left seat.
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