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450knotOffice 01-11-2013 08:01 AM


Originally Posted by TurboDVR42 (Post 1327523)
When I JS i do not ask for a single thing (besides water and a place to put my bag), but when a flight attendant tells a revenue passenger that those are practically crew seats thats straight up wrong.
Oh well...i guess there are bigger battles to pick out there.

It's not wrong. The pax already have their own seats.

Jeez. Cut them some slack.

450knotOffice 01-11-2013 08:06 AM


Originally Posted by Sonny Crockett (Post 1327877)
Departed 22L tonight out of ORD, was cleared to line up and wait.....as we crossed the hold short line I turned on the strobes which is our UAL policy.....Tool in an American Eagle RJ makes the comment on the radio; "nice strobes"


TOOL OF THE DAY TODAY!

Really? Thin skin, man.

Personally, I think it's juvenile to make the comment on the air, but it IS annoying to every other pilot out there when they have to look at almighty UAL's strobes flashing away while parked on the runway at night.

C'mon guys! Let's come up with better one's than the last few I've seen. :rolleyes:

Senior Skipper 01-11-2013 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by Sonny Crockett (Post 1327877)
Departed 22L tonight out of ORD, was cleared to line up and wait.....as we crossed the hold short line I turned on the strobes which is our UAL policy.....Tool in an American Eagle RJ makes the comment on the radio; "nice strobes"


TOOL OF THE DAY TODAY!

Not a tool, just a clown who hasn't read the AIM.

450knotOffice 01-11-2013 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by 4runner (Post 1325129)
You mean the Captain expected you to know how to operate in a busy airport, minimize cost to the company, not sound like an asshat on the radio and maybe learn something while you're there???? Yeah.....what a tool... Being a big bad airline pilot is hard and they yell at you!

Now THIS guy's a proper tool. Jeez, man. Were YOU the guy he was talking about? That captain he flew with was just browbeating the hell out of him. I spent seven years as an FO, and 15 as a captain now. The guy he was describing is the guy I NEVER want to be. EVER.

80ktsClamp 01-11-2013 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by 450knotOffice (Post 1328104)
Really? Thin skin, man.

Personally, I think it's juvenile to make the comment on the air, but it IS annoying to every other pilot out there when they have to look at almighty UAL's strobes flashing away while parked on the runway at night.

C'mon guys! Let's come up with better one's than the last few I've seen. :rolleyes:

Don't look at them. Most airlines have a policy of having the strobes on.... but we've been down this street before. Deal with it. ;)

gloopy 01-11-2013 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by TurboDVR42 (Post 1327314)
I was on a flight from DEN-MIA on AA. I was travelling as revenue passenger wearing civilian clothe. When the door closed I got up and went to the very last row because it was completely empty. When I got to the seats I noticed all of the FA bags. I asked her kindly if she could move the bags and she replied with “the last row is reserved for flight attendance to supervise the passengers during the flight”

I dint realize bankruptcy court approved AA to block 6 revenue seats for FAs to “supervise” the passengers. During the flight I looked back to see how hard they were “supervising,” they did look busy supervising with there ipads and eyelids closed!

Not sure if she was a tool for lying…maybe just lazy!!!! If it really is AA procedure to have FAs sit in the last row for a 4 hour flight, than I apologize. But I highly doubt it is!

That is prescious.

Correct answer:

If OAL: Oh, I didn't realize that. My appologies. I'll just scoot back to the middle seat between two fat guys.

If your airline: Ha! That's funny. I believe you believe that. Aaaaaaaaaanywhoo...can I have just one of those seats?

If Yes: :cool:

If No: send it up the chain requesting a company memo clarifying this "policy".

450knotOffice 01-11-2013 12:46 PM

Or suck it up and don't worry about it. Very few flights have even ONE seat open anywhere in the plane, so when the flight is less than full and the gate agents kindly block off that last row, let the FA's enjoy this little unofficial perk.
Jeez guys. How many Grinches do we have on this board? No wonder so many FA's hate us.

lakehouse 01-11-2013 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by 450knotOffice (Post 1328303)
Or suck it up and don't worry about it. Very few flights have even ONE seat open anywhere in the plane, so when the flight is less than full and the gate agents kindly block off that last row, let the FA's enjoy this little unofficial perk.
Jeez guys. How many Grinches do we have on this board? No wonder so many FA's hate us.

This is an AA thing, and it is a bit annoying. I was with my family (2 adults, 1 baby), including the baby in the car seat on a fairly full 737 and put in the last row so we could be together. We all were in regular clothes. First I arrived and all the tray tables were down across both sides. Second I was confronted when getting settled to check the boarding passes, which were in the diaper bag. It was a frantic let me see them now before you get too much stuff all over our seats type approach. She then gave them back and said you might have to move. Once the flight was clear to be full enough we could not move, I thought it was over. We were over an hour into the flight and the kid was out of the car seat so I moved across to the aisle seat across from me to let the kid out. I sat there for about 10 minutes, used the lav, came back and the the tray tables were back down and crew bags on the seats. One guy came back and tried to put the tray table up and the FA ran out of the rear galley saying NO NO NO those are blocked off. That was the only time I saw any FA till the prepare for landing PA. They all just sat in the rear galley talking.

Its a two way street, so I can see the PAX side of this. It is annoying when no one actually sits in the seats. This is coming from someone who had a mother who was a 20+ year EAL FA.

Either way TOTD, I am not sure it meets that.

DeadHead 01-11-2013 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1328200)
Don't look at them. Most airlines have a policy of having the strobes on.... but we've been down this street before. Deal with it. ;)

I know right, why is it always a shock to these guys when the strobes come on from an aircraft taking the runway? They come on anyway when they start the takeoff roll. Is it really that difficult to not stare directly at them? It's like their freaking deer wandering onto to a highway.

That being said, I hate it when guys start trying to micromanage other aircraft on the frequency. Heard once where an RJ commented on how the RJ ahead of him needs to turn his beacon on in a very condescending tone. The other guys basically asked him how to use a beacon when it's deferred. Classic response.
Unless its a safety issue, don't be a tool.

SpeedyVagabond 01-11-2013 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by DeadHead (Post 1328364)
I know right, why is it always a shock to these guys when the strobes come on from an aircraft taking the runway? They come on anyway when they start the takeoff roll. Is it really that difficult to not stare directly at them? It's like their freaking deer wandering onto to a highway.

To heck with them dh. The true tools are the ones who jeopardize their passengers safety so they can be perceived as cool by a bunch of other tools who do the same. To all the PSA and Cacti strobe police in clt - my strobes are coming on. Deal with it. If you don't like them, perhaps you should be a little smarter and not look at them. Y'all might try drinking a little less coffee too.


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