Originally Posted by Bluto
(Post 1588910)
I'm pretty certain "Tool of Eternity" would be more doctrinally correct verbiage.
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Originally Posted by Packrat
(Post 1588322)
Not to be a contrarian, but once you earn a title you should be addressed by it.
Someone will get this... |
Originally Posted by lowapproach
(Post 1589104)
At least he wears the uniform correctly. ;) |
Originally Posted by FlyBoyd
(Post 1588384)
Yes, I went through initial training and I now have a 757/767 type with no restrictions. I could be a captain, but I am a first officer because others got here first. When I make captain, it will be due to time. The title isn't merit based, therefore, it isn't "earned."
You choose to remain a FO because you are apparently unwilling to demonstrate your merit. |
Originally Posted by Packrat
(Post 1588416)
Some people are Captains. Some are fork lift drivers. I guess its all in the level of pride and professionalism they exhibit.
You can usually tell the difference by the way they wear their uniform. |
Originally Posted by FlyBoyd
(Post 1588384)
Yes, I went through initial training and I now have a 757/767 type with no restrictions. I could be a captain, but I am a first officer because others got here first. When I make captain, it will be due to time. The title isn't merit based, therefore, it isn't "earned."
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Originally Posted by CheapTrick
(Post 1589485)
Yep, this "wisdom" ****es me off a little too. At my large airline, time gets you the opportunity to apply for the 4th stripe. However, they do not give it away. You are going to have to get past the gatekeepers who diligently make sure you have the goods to sit in the left seat. It is earned even if you are so good that you make it look easy. You weren't born good. You worked to get good. That means you earned it.
My intent was to say that getting the opportunity to be the captain takes time. The opportunity isn't anymore merit based than your qualifications to be FO. If you are able to hold captain after the latest bid and you bid it, you will be scheduled for training. The earning of that opportunity is the time you put in. Even if you are the most dangerous FO on property, if you are free and clear of any issues, you will go to training to be a captain. That is the earning and merit I was speaking to. That being said, your progress through training and subsequent check ride are obviously based on knowledge and performance. No attitude here gentlemen. I'm just pointing out the interaction of time/seniority and contractual entitlements as they relate to upgrading. I apologize for the confusion caused by my previous post. |
Originally Posted by CheapTrick
(Post 1589485)
Yep, this "wisdom" ****es me off a little too. At my large airline, time gets you the opportunity to apply for the 4th stripe. However, they do not give it away. You are going to have to get past the gatekeepers who diligently make sure you have the goods to sit in the left seat. It is earned even if you are so good that you make it look easy. You weren't born good. You worked to get good. That means you earned it.
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Originally Posted by CanoePilot
(Post 1589524)
Getting a type and upgrading isn't that difficult it's a 4 week crash course. We're not talking about OCS here, it's airline training.
"Captain" isn't earned? YGBSM. |
Originally Posted by thevagabond
(Post 1589481)
Indeed. Too many forklift drivers although their ranks are small thank goodness.
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