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#5721
She's sitting in the window seat, he's in the middle seat. It's not so hard to imagine that she may have been sleeping up against the window, and thus leaving some of her seat open. His hand may have flopped in to the open seat, and when she moved, could have easily sat on the guys hand. The reason this guy is going to prison, is the fact he said he raised the armrest. Had he not done that, his defense would have held. However, the fact that he had no prior history to this, makes me side with the accidental contact explanation. The guy has a teenage daughter himself.
In a case like this, the girl has strong motivation to lie, because if he is found guilty, she is now going to be a millionaire.
In a case like this, the girl has strong motivation to lie, because if he is found guilty, she is now going to be a millionaire.
...and if it REALLY happened and she's NOT lying, she's somewhat damaged at a young age. Oh, btw, HE also has a strong motivation to lie to save HIS butt.
Just curious about the dudes defending a fellow pilot....do you have children, more importantly, young daughters?
The argument that he has a daughter himself is bs as my daughter was sexually harrassed (including inappropriate touching) by a man old enough to be her father who had TWO daughters around my daughter's age. So much for that dumb theory.....
(this was by a "man" her father knows....she was also recently harrassed via texts by another "man" her father knows through work. To say molesters are sick is an understatement, they just can't control themselves no matter the circumstances).
#5722
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...and if it REALLY happened and she's NOT lying, she's somewhat damaged at a young age. Oh, btw, HE also has a strong motivation to lie to save HIS butt.
Just curious about the dudes defending a fellow pilot....do you have children, more importantly, young daughters?
The argument that he has a daughter himself is bs as my daughter was sexually harrassed (including inappropriate touching) by a man old enough to be her father who had TWO daughters around my daughter's age. So much for that dumb theory.....
(this was by a "man" her father knows....she was also recently harrassed via texts by another "man" her father knows through work. To say molesters are sick is an understatement, they just can't control themselves no matter the circumstances).
Just curious about the dudes defending a fellow pilot....do you have children, more importantly, young daughters?
The argument that he has a daughter himself is bs as my daughter was sexually harrassed (including inappropriate touching) by a man old enough to be her father who had TWO daughters around my daughter's age. So much for that dumb theory.....
(this was by a "man" her father knows....she was also recently harrassed via texts by another "man" her father knows through work. To say molesters are sick is an understatement, they just can't control themselves no matter the circumstances).
Don't worry though, the prison code states this pilot is going to get 100 fold for what he's in there for.
#5723
I'm not defending molesters, I'm saying I could possibly see this scenario as being an accident. Furthermore, I don't think the airline should have to pay out big money either because of this incident. I highly, highly doubt this incident would have gone to court if there wasn't a massive financial incentive to do so.
Don't worry though, the prison code states this pilot is going to get 100 fold for what he's in there for.
Don't worry though, the prison code states this pilot is going to get 100 fold for what he's in there for.
#5724
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#5725
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From: window seat
And I'm defending the concept of defense. To be convicted of anything, let alone something so serious, based only off of one person's testimony is rediculous. And that's even assuming that person didn't have a multimillion dollar built in reason to lie and go for some DEEP pockets.
A guilty until proven innocent system, even if its supposedly in the name of saving the children or whatever, is 100% un-American.
A guilty until proven innocent system, even if its supposedly in the name of saving the children or whatever, is 100% un-American.
#5726
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From: Downwind, headed straight for the rocks, shanghaied aboard the ship of fools.
LNL, no one is being passionate here defending the guy. It's probably a good idea you don't share your thoughts about any of us. You know nothing about any of us and you'd be quite mistaken, based on this discussion, to infer that we have anything but respect in our attitudes and actions towards women. In fact, to do so would be worthy of tool of the week.
#5727
LNL, no one is being passionate here defending the guy. It's probably a good idea you don't share your thoughts about any of us. You know nothing about any of us and you'd be quite mistaken, based on this discussion, to infer that we have anything but respect in our attitudes and actions towards women. In fact, to do so would be worthy of tool of the week.

#5728
I don’t think anyone posting in this thread deserves tool of the day.
Everyone has differing opinions and that is alright. We each state the basis for our opinions and that is all. The justice system spoke in this case. As is the case in each decision handed down in the criminal justice system, some agree and some do not. The bottom line is; we should be willing to accept the decisions made (no matter how much we may disagree) because believe it or not, with all of its flaws, it is still one of the best legal systems in the world. Think not? Review systems closely related to ours such as England, Spain, and Germany for example and see how far astray they are from ours and how we all would be *****ing far more about those similar legal systems. Review other countries’ legal systems non-related to ours and you will be horrified.
Everyone has differing opinions and that is alright. We each state the basis for our opinions and that is all. The justice system spoke in this case. As is the case in each decision handed down in the criminal justice system, some agree and some do not. The bottom line is; we should be willing to accept the decisions made (no matter how much we may disagree) because believe it or not, with all of its flaws, it is still one of the best legal systems in the world. Think not? Review systems closely related to ours such as England, Spain, and Germany for example and see how far astray they are from ours and how we all would be *****ing far more about those similar legal systems. Review other countries’ legal systems non-related to ours and you will be horrified.
#5729
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From: Downwind, headed straight for the rocks, shanghaied aboard the ship of fools.
I'm not throwing out the misogynist card. I just find it curious how some on here never have a problem throwing other people involved in the industry under the bus when they get arrested. They are NEVER afforded the "maybe it was a misunderstanding" excuse. Members of airline management, union leadership, mechanics, rampers, FAs and of course, big bad TSA agents are almost always guilty as charged in the court of public opinion on here.
#5730
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From: Downwind, headed straight for the rocks, shanghaied aboard the ship of fools.
I strongly agree Rhino. I feel very fortunate to have been born here and certainly wouldn't want to be in legal trouble anywhere else in the world. On a completely different subject, I owe LNL an apology. I was rude and belittling to you before regarding an entirely different subject and I'm sincerely sorry.
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