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WHACKMASTER 03-30-2017 05:20 AM

The argument on whether to button the bottom button or not (not, as it's traditionally worn and cut to not have that one buttoned) is small potatoes relative to the argument whether to button it at all or not. Note to those that walk around around the terminal in their uniform with the flaps waving in the self-induced breeze.......

You look amateurish to your fellow peers and the general public. If you're too hot, take off the blazer and lay it on your roller.

No Land 3 03-30-2017 05:25 AM


Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER (Post 2332518)
The argument on whether to button the bottom button or not (not, as it's traditionally worn and cut to not have that one buttoned) is small potatoes relative to the argument whether to button it at all or not. Note to those that walk around around the terminal in their uniform with the flaps waving in the self-induced breeze.......

You look amateurish to your fellow peers and the general public. If you're too hot, take off the blazer and lay it on your roller.

So, uhm... Most of you became pilots to wear the uniform? To look a certain way, to live out scenes from "Catch Me If You Can"? I know of people like that, most of them never got past their instrument rating. Well hell, I ought to stop flying in my sweat pants and comfy t-shirt, I didn't know it was the uniform that made us professional.

CBreezy 03-30-2017 05:31 AM


Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER (Post 2332518)
The argument on whether to button the bottom button or not (not, as it's traditionally worn and cut to not have that one buttoned) is small potatoes relative to the argument whether to button it at all or not. Note to those that walk around around the terminal in their uniform with the flaps waving in the self-induced breeze.......

You look amateurish to your fellow peers and the general public. If you're too hot, take off the blazer and lay it on your roller.

Again, pretty sure the TSA uniform guidance says the jacket may be worn buttoned or unbuttoned. So, they consider it professional.

WHACKMASTER 03-30-2017 05:31 AM


Originally Posted by No Land 3 (Post 2332523)
So, uhm... Most of you became pilots to wear the uniform? To look a certain way, to live out scenes from "Catch Me If You Can"? I know of people like that, most of them never got past their instrument rating. Well hell, I ought to stop flying in my sweat pants and comfy t-shirt, I didn't know it was the uniform that made us professional.

Yes, it is PART of a professional image, obviously not all. Honestly, it blows my mind that this conversation is even happening :rolleyes:

Have some self-respect people. Look and act the part of a professional pilot.

Mover 03-30-2017 05:50 AM


Originally Posted by Sluggo_63 (Post 2332501)
Funny, maybe I'm a tool for even wading into this discussion, but I've always wondered about this.

I know a men's suit jacket should always have the bottom button unbuttoned. That's the way they are cut, to allow for that.

But we're not wearing a "traditional suit jacket," we're wearing a uniform coat, and something from my former Air Force days says to me that all my buttons on my uniform jacket should be buttoned.

Having said that, I usually wear my airline jacket with the bottom button unbuttoned.

Your former AF days have made you a nerd (also, no one cares). If you're wearing a blazer (which a lot of airline uniforms have), you only button the top. It's not that difficult.

In fact, it's even easier than buttoning everything.

LNL76 03-30-2017 06:19 AM

I never knew this stuff about blazers/suit jackets. Seriously.

That said, please for the love of all that's holy, have some pride and wear the uniform correctly and with pride.

It's not that hard, people!

WHACKMASTER 03-30-2017 07:06 AM


Originally Posted by LNL76 (Post 2332554)
I never knew this stuff about blazers/suit jackets. Seriously.

That said, please for the love of all that's holy, have some pride and wear the uniform correctly and with pride.

It's not that hard, people!

Exactly, and if you need a little visual guidance take notice of an Emirates, Lufthansa, Korean Air, etc crew the next time one walks past you. One of the reasons they're respected far more in their respective countries than we are in ours is because they look and act the part.

captjns 03-30-2017 07:08 AM


Originally Posted by LNL76 (Post 2332554)
I never knew this stuff about blazers/suit jackets. Seriously.

That said, please for the love of all that's holy, have some pride and wear the uniform correctly and with pride.

It's not that hard, people!

I'm an expat. Uniform standards is not even a questions. In fact, uniform standards is not a questions with the majority of overseas carriers. My fellow expats read and discuss the dribble on APC, and this is just one where the wine comes out of one's nasai. We even have to wear the dreaded hat:eek:. Oh the humanity. But the good new is no ear buds, no back packs, or the weird colored reflecting sun glasses with white rims.:)

SpeedyVagabond 03-30-2017 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by No Land 3 (Post 2332523)
So, uhm... Most of you became pilots to wear the uniform? To look a certain way, to live out scenes from "Catch Me If You Can"? I know of people like that, most of them never got past their instrument rating. Well hell, I ought to stop flying in my sweat pants and comfy t-shirt, I didn't know it was the uniform that made us professional.

Here we go again. The falling standards crowd back with their silly arguments against taking pride it what we do and being professional.

OneEyedMonster 03-30-2017 07:48 AM

Well, our president wears his jacket open most of the time and with a tie that is at least a few inches too long, on a good day.

Ironically a pilot could say "If its good enough for the most powerful person in the world, its good enough for me while in the CLE terminal"

Nothing makes me laugh more than people, on an anonymous forum, forever telling others how to be a professional. I probably have flown with 50 pilots in my career that look great walking down a terminal but are worthless on the flighdeck, the opposite is equally true with the guy who looks like a slob but is great at the job.

You nerds are really having a conversation about the bottom button on a uniform blazer. This takes type A controlling pilot to an entire new level.


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