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#9501
Yeah, you're probably right. Scientists couldn't have possibly figured out with any degree of certainty that CO2 affects the atmosphere and, as a result, the climate. Oh, wait. They have. Just one example is cited below...unless you want to tell all of those idiots at NASA that they're wrong. All those engineers and rocket scientists are pretty dumb.
So, assuming you're willing to graciously admit that CO2 can affect the climate, take the following into consideration: there are 7+ BILLION people in the world; they have 1+ BILLION working automobiles, and every single one produces 4.7 metric TONS of CO2 every year; the vast number of military and civilian jets in the world that fly every single day; the tens of thousands of factories in the world; and the reduction in CO2-absorbing trees and plants from the growth and spread of the population. With all of that, uh, yeah, it's very easy to see how the global population of earth could affect the atmosphere and, by result, the climate.
I doubt any of that will make you change your mind, though. Because you don't want to. No amount of evidence in the world can make someone believe something they simply don't want to believe. They'll simply discount the evidence, no matter how strong or numerous, or discount the source of the evidence as biased, even if it's very clear and likely that it's not.
https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Fe...ycle/page5.php
World Population Clock: 7.5 Billion People (2017) - Worldometers
World Vehicle Population Tops 1 Billion Units | News & Analysis content from WardsAuto
https://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/gr...nger-vehicle-0
So, assuming you're willing to graciously admit that CO2 can affect the climate, take the following into consideration: there are 7+ BILLION people in the world; they have 1+ BILLION working automobiles, and every single one produces 4.7 metric TONS of CO2 every year; the vast number of military and civilian jets in the world that fly every single day; the tens of thousands of factories in the world; and the reduction in CO2-absorbing trees and plants from the growth and spread of the population. With all of that, uh, yeah, it's very easy to see how the global population of earth could affect the atmosphere and, by result, the climate.
I doubt any of that will make you change your mind, though. Because you don't want to. No amount of evidence in the world can make someone believe something they simply don't want to believe. They'll simply discount the evidence, no matter how strong or numerous, or discount the source of the evidence as biased, even if it's very clear and likely that it's not.
https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Fe...ycle/page5.php
World Population Clock: 7.5 Billion People (2017) - Worldometers
World Vehicle Population Tops 1 Billion Units | News & Analysis content from WardsAuto
https://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/gr...nger-vehicle-0
I havent seen any data in this arena, but would be interested if you could pm me or post those numbers. This is a serious inquiry because I have failed to locate any of that info.
Thanks Gator
#9502
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2015
Position: pj's and coffee
Posts: 228
Super- Lets talk about reversal. What efforts can we take besides a meaningless Paris Climate Agreement where most of the world wont do jack$hit about their contribution to the problem and we make all the sacrifices? Also, what level of CO2 output would markedly reverse the trend?
I havent seen any data in this arena, but would be interested if you could pm me or post those numbers. This is a serious inquiry because I have failed to locate any of that info.
Thanks Gator
I havent seen any data in this arena, but would be interested if you could pm me or post those numbers. This is a serious inquiry because I have failed to locate any of that info.
Thanks Gator
I thought this article was interesting, although its but one single source of info and I'm just putting it here as one anecdotal answer to your question ...it uses 450 ppm as a generally accepted benchmark that we need to not rise above.
https://www.climatecommunication.org...tialaction.pdf
Excerpt: "In order to stabilize CO2 concentrations at about 450 ppm by 2050, global emissions would have to decline by about 60% by 2050. Industrialized countries greenhouse gas emissions would have to decline by about 80% by 2050."
#9503
Great question. And if I knew the answer I wouldn't be a pilot. I agree that stuff like the Paris Climate Accord is way more about politicians congratulating themselves than actually getting a thing done.
I thought this article was interesting, although its but one single source of info and I'm just putting it here as one anecdotal answer to your question ...it uses 450 ppm as a generally accepted benchmark that we need to not rise above.
https://www.climatecommunication.org...tialaction.pdf
Excerpt: "In order to stabilize CO2 concentrations at about 450 ppm by 2050, global emissions would have to decline by about 60% by 2050. Industrialized countries greenhouse gas emissions would have to decline by about 80% by 2050."
I thought this article was interesting, although its but one single source of info and I'm just putting it here as one anecdotal answer to your question ...it uses 450 ppm as a generally accepted benchmark that we need to not rise above.
https://www.climatecommunication.org...tialaction.pdf
Excerpt: "In order to stabilize CO2 concentrations at about 450 ppm by 2050, global emissions would have to decline by about 60% by 2050. Industrialized countries greenhouse gas emissions would have to decline by about 80% by 2050."
We can't even harness the sun efficiently. Nuclear is about the only thing we get "right".
The Earth has been known to fluctuate throughout its life, so we'll see.
The endless bickering does get old😑
Peace👍
#9505
#9506
#9507
Banned
Joined APC: Jul 2015
Position: systems analyst
Posts: 757
I blame Anne coulter and her rant. That much hot air must have had some impact on the atmosphere. Maybe if we harness the power of her whining like a 16 year old we could solve world hunger. Or just collectively make her ride the bus for the rest of her life
Could you imagine if the airlines started a blacklist? People would straighten up and act with some semblance of respect
Could you imagine if the airlines started a blacklist? People would straighten up and act with some semblance of respect
#9509
I have my Climate Change/Global Warming prepper kit (cooler chest filled with ice and beers) ready to implement at a moment’s notice!
I tend to conduct many unannounced/unplanned emergency preparedness drills in my backyard and thus; I am always prepared, always hydrated, and always happy.
Peace out.
I tend to conduct many unannounced/unplanned emergency preparedness drills in my backyard and thus; I am always prepared, always hydrated, and always happy.
Peace out.
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