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Old 02-24-2013, 04:14 AM
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Interesting story and maybe she'll be an inspiration to others seeking to get into this field.
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Old 02-24-2013, 08:38 PM
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What a nice girl!
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Old 02-24-2013, 11:13 PM
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A few observations- first of all, slightly off topic, but was discussed: Someone mentioned about 1 hour 1000 times. That is an absolute bullcrap statement and only made out of complete ignorance. Every flight is different and something can be learned from each and every last one.

On topic: Something just ain't right about this chick. Sure, corporate aviation is very much about who you know, but most people that I know that got picked up with low hours were very competent pilots- much moreso than their hours reflected. I remember when her thing on facebook first popped up, it immediately came across as odd and perhaps fishy.

The videos of her, and what she posts on facebook reflect a pilot with very low maturity as one. Watching her walk around the aircraft was obviously more for show. The 4 stripes, well... that speaks for itself. Watching her fly the airplane was immediately evident that she does not have a particular command of the aircraft- more along for the ride than anything. It looked more like a CFI (the chief pilot) with a fairly new student who was getting the feel of the aircraft. Had he conked out and died, I would be concerned about her ability to get the plane on the ground safely.

Promoting aviation? Nah... promoting herself!


Edit: Oh, and her facebook page even lists herself as Gulfstream PIC.
PIC my butt!

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Old 02-25-2013, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp View Post
Edit: Oh, and her facebook page even lists herself as Gulfstream PIC.
PIC my butt!
As far as your post went about people getting corp jobs with low time, seems like they fall into TWO categories. The one you outlined, OR simply the "meat in the seat" type. The one to be there to serve coffee, look good, and maybe gets to fly the empty legs, etc. And it seems like when they fall into the latter category, even on larger corporate aircraft, it's usually a crappy/substandard operation.

As far as the bold part goes, I'm sure Rule #34 can fall in there somewhere
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Old 02-25-2013, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by xjtguy View Post
As far as your post went about people getting corp jobs with low time, seems like they fall into TWO categories. The one you outlined, OR simply the "meat in the seat" type. The one to be there to serve coffee, look good, and maybe gets to fly the empty legs, etc. And it seems like when they fall into the latter category, even on larger corporate aircraft, it's usually a crappy/substandard operation.

As far as the bold part goes, I'm sure Rule #34 can fall in there somewhere
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Old 02-25-2013, 01:36 PM
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To the comment about bullcrap statement out of complete ignorance, I disagree. It isn't about the quantity of the time (1 hr a 1000 times still equals 1000), it's the quality of time. I had several CFIs at various different FBOs/schools and it was through a couple of them I got to know that statement. The point there isn't that you haven't learned anything by repeating 1 hr 1000 times, it's that the quality of that flight time isn't as great as someone who is willing to vary his flight experience by trying new things. For example, compare a guy who only flies on a clear/million with no wind, and takes off only to do 2 takeoff/landings in the pattern. That's it, .7 block, and does this for 100 hrs. Now compared to a guy who takes off in various weather/wind conditions, flies cross countries, and lands at different airports both paved airports and grass strips, for 100 hrs. Both get the same flight time experience, but for one, the time spent is more valuable in terms of learning and being exposed to different things, and therefore the quality is better. In any case, you know the saying about opinions, having one, and stinking.



And wow about that article, if that's the kinda gal she is, then all gloves are off.
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Old 02-25-2013, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy View Post
To the comment about bullcrap statement out of complete ignorance, I disagree. It isn't about the quantity of the time (1 hr a 1000 times still equals 1000), it's the quality of time. I had several CFIs at various different FBOs/schools and it was through a couple of them I got to know that statement. The point there isn't that you haven't learned anything by repeating 1 hr 1000 times, it's that the quality of that flight time isn't as great as someone who is willing to vary his flight experience by trying new things. For example, compare a guy who only flies on a clear/million with no wind, and takes off only to do 2 takeoff/landings in the pattern. That's it, .7 block, and does this for 100 hrs. Now compared to a guy who takes off in various weather/wind conditions, flies cross countries, and lands at different airports both paved airports and grass strips, for 100 hrs. Both get the same flight time experience, but for one, the time spent is more valuable in terms of learning and being exposed to different things, and therefore the quality is better. In any case, you know the saying about opinions, having one, and stinking.



And wow about that article, if that's the kinda gal she is, then all gloves are off.
Every lesson you can learn things and increase your ability as a pilot. Contrary to what you stated, the weather conditions are never exactly alike, every student is different and requires various different instructions techniques, and there are a million different ways to vary even the same lesson.

Every one of my PPL students had at least a little bit of actual IFR experience. Many had shot an ILS (foggy mornings down close to mins in FL were frequent during certain times of the year... but clear on top). All of them had seen short, grass strips. I was always sure to be highly creative as an instructor to maximize their learning and my teaching/flying ability.

The 1 hour 1000 times IS stated out of complete ignorance as an excuse to justify a wrong stance on being a CFI.
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Old 02-25-2013, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyC View Post
blah blah...

You do realize that several moderators have had their hand in this pot today, right? There's no covering of tracks as it's able to be seen.

Make it a conspiracy if you want, but that tinfoil hat is going to get itchy.
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp View Post
Every lesson you can learn things and increase your ability as a pilot. Contrary to what you stated, the weather conditions are never exactly alike, every student is different and requires various different instructions techniques, and there are a million different ways to vary even the same lesson.

Every one of my PPL students had at least a little bit of actual IFR experience. Many had shot an ILS (foggy mornings down close to mins in FL were frequent during certain times of the year... but clear on top). All of them had seen short, grass strips. I was always sure to be highly creative as an instructor to maximize their learning and my teaching/flying ability.

The 1 hour 1000 times IS stated out of complete ignorance as an excuse to justify a wrong stance on being a CFI.
I heard it from not just one CFI. Quality, not quantity. 100 hrs is still a 100 hours. Your students sound like well rounded guys who I'd put down in the quality time column. I know a couple pilots that will absolutely not come out if there's a cloud in the sky and/or the wind is greater than 0 kts.
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Old 02-25-2013, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp View Post

You do realize that several moderators have had their hand in this pot today, right? There's no covering of tracks as it's able to be seen.

Make it a conspiracy if you want, but that tinfoil hat is going to get itchy.

I know all the Moderators and Admins are aware of it now that I reported your post and your PM to me, but it is hardly out in the open when a Moderator deletes a post which is critical of that Moderator. Unless someone saw the post before it was deleted, or happened to be subscribed to the thread and received an e-mail, or happens to be a Moderator or Admin who for some reason decides to go look at deleted posts, the disappearance of the post is transparent.

I wouldn't call is a conspiracy, but it looks like a cover up.

What did LNL76 say which required that her post be deleted?

In other words, what activity should we all refrain from in order to not have our own posts be deleted?

It would appear to me that her sin was to be critical of you. Please correct me if I'm wrong.


I know you know that converting someone's words into "blah, blah" is disrespectful, right? Is that part of your job description?






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