Gulfstream Girl
02-20-2013 | 07:20 AM
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Interesting to see that there are apparently some airline pilots that are also part time psychologists. Lordy! If you disagree with the guy’s statements, just say so and move on. No need to get into a lathered up tirade. Talk about over-kill and some possible underlying problems surfacing in the responses. ALL types of personalities each with their own quirks out there behind the sticks, isn’t there?
Keeps us all guessing.
Keeps us all guessing.
02-20-2013 | 07:33 AM
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From: FAA 'Flight Check'
Now realize this was presented as a few spikes in the TacAir community.
02-20-2013 | 10:11 AM
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Few, meaning not that many, just a slight spike on the trand graph?
02-20-2013 | 11:21 AM
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I haven't seen graphs/stats in a few years now since retirement but I'd wager that they are similar.
As for "few" - I meant spikes in the averages.
At 500 hrs - you are starting to think you are foolproof.
At 1500 - you are starting to get complacent.
I actually don't know if there is another spike in there. It can be done of course - but getting over 2000 in type is a challenge in TacAir.
02-20-2013 | 11:54 AM
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So the guy who also went to airshows and loved the fighters is egotistical then?
I believe you when you say that you didn't want to fly fighters. I had a roommate in college who's only goal was to fly KC-10s for the minimum commitment and then get out and fly with American (ideally).
But he also didn't go around saying anyone in his class who wanted to fly fighter/attack was egotistical either. That comment alone - especially with your lack of exposure to the communities - is off base and stems from something under the surface.
I believe you when you say that you didn't want to fly fighters. I had a roommate in college who's only goal was to fly KC-10s for the minimum commitment and then get out and fly with American (ideally).
But he also didn't go around saying anyone in his class who wanted to fly fighter/attack was egotistical either. That comment alone - especially with your lack of exposure to the communities - is off base and stems from something under the surface.
While I dont find much value in his views or posts, I can at least vouch that I know he was an airline pilot. I know his name and know of him from my last company. I cant vouch he is at Virgin (do not doubt he isnt) but I do know he holds an ATP and was on the RJ at his last company.
But no, I never worked at Colgan. If you stated you knew me from your last company, it implies you were there after the merger, and had bid a 9E jet seat (most likely CA). Then you would have worked for my last company. You are yet another Colgan guy who knows me and I don't you. You should introduce yourself. I will say despite the numerous internet tough guys at 9L and XJ (you arent one) but of those who knew me, not one approached me in person. I guess it's easier to be tough and/or talk smack online. I also found out about a couple XJ and 9L pilots stalked me on FB and passed my prfile pic around. One of them even attempted a password reset attempt on my account. I tell ya, people these days.
02-20-2013 | 12:05 PM
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Personally, I think you are completely FOS, "ShyGuy". You came onto this thread, boasting about how you managed to buy your way into an airline job (hint: no one in their early 20's has $27k for an RJ rating unless mommy gives it to them) and that people shouldn't give the Gulfstream Girl a hard time.
Then you go on to say crap like "I never understood the egotistic want of a fighter jet. Oooh, a shiny fighter. Big deal" and "My concern was being able to pass a FAA 1st class. Once I passed that, I knew I had it made."
O'rly? You "knew you had it made", eh? LOL
Well, you may or may not be "an airline pilot", but IF (<---and that's a big "if") you are, you bought your way into the job with money someone else gave you, and here you are bragging about it while insulting a lot of folks in the process.
Me? I've got crisp $100 says you're a ramp rat who tosses bags for a living while dreaming of flying that big, shiny airliner someday, who has read just enough of these forums to know a little lingo.
LMAO! Maybe he will!
This nails it perfectly (assuming he is what he says he is)...
Gents, haven't you been listening? ShyGuy doesn't care about all that, all he cares about is being a 2nd year FO flying an A320, and nevermind how he got there. Oh wait....yes he does....he wants to laugh at everyone who didn't do like he did and buy his way into the job while lecturing them not to look down on such people.
Want a little truth, Shy? No one will ever respect you for buying your way into your job (assuming you are what you claim to be). You'll always and forever be "that guy". Always. Have fun with that.
Oh, and go ahead and tell us all....once again....how you don't care because you got what you wanted. Protest some more, big britches.
LOL!
Then you go on to say crap like "I never understood the egotistic want of a fighter jet. Oooh, a shiny fighter. Big deal" and "My concern was being able to pass a FAA 1st class. Once I passed that, I knew I had it made."
O'rly? You "knew you had it made", eh? LOL
Well, you may or may not be "an airline pilot", but IF (<---and that's a big "if") you are, you bought your way into the job with money someone else gave you, and here you are bragging about it while insulting a lot of folks in the process.
Me? I've got crisp $100 says you're a ramp rat who tosses bags for a living while dreaming of flying that big, shiny airliner someday, who has read just enough of these forums to know a little lingo.
LMAO! Maybe he will!
This nails it perfectly (assuming he is what he says he is)...
Gents, haven't you been listening? ShyGuy doesn't care about all that, all he cares about is being a 2nd year FO flying an A320, and nevermind how he got there. Oh wait....yes he does....he wants to laugh at everyone who didn't do like he did and buy his way into the job while lecturing them not to look down on such people.
Want a little truth, Shy? No one will ever respect you for buying your way into your job (assuming you are what you claim to be). You'll always and forever be "that guy". Always. Have fun with that.
Oh, and go ahead and tell us all....once again....how you don't care because you got what you wanted. Protest some more, big britches.
LOL!
You can keep your $100 bill, lets just call it even then.
I hope wherever you are in aviation, that you get what you desire. Good luck.
02-20-2013 | 12:06 PM
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Mishaps rates have been hanging fairly steady for years now. Nothing like the huge waves of the 60s, 70, and even the 80s.
I haven't seen graphs/stats in a few years now since retirement but I'd wager that they are similar.
As for "few" - I meant spikes in the averages.
At 500 hrs - you are starting to think you are foolproof.
At 1500 - you are starting to get complacent.
I actually don't know if there is another spike in there. It can be done of course - but getting over 2000 in type is a challenge in TacAir.
I haven't seen graphs/stats in a few years now since retirement but I'd wager that they are similar.
As for "few" - I meant spikes in the averages.
At 500 hrs - you are starting to think you are foolproof.
At 1500 - you are starting to get complacent.
I actually don't know if there is another spike in there. It can be done of course - but getting over 2000 in type is a challenge in TacAir.
02-20-2013 | 12:22 PM
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From: FAA 'Flight Check'
Sounding naiive I'm sure, but what's TacAir? I know that's a FBO-type company that has a bad rap and a quick turnover in the pilot ranks, but that's this in the military term? Tactical Air group? Squadron? Does this include fighters and bombers, fighters only, bombers only, what are the components?
On basic terms it means anything involved in offensive air - shoots or drops something - or the 'pointy-nosed' guys (though this would be very hard to call any type of A-6 variant 'pointy-nosed'
02-20-2013 | 01:17 PM
#130
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...That's total and complete BS. More accurately, it's what you tell yourself (and have told yourself) to lessen the mental and emotional pain of being passed over and told you weren't good enough (nevermind the reason why). We know this because you said you "would have been perfectly happy flying a cargo airplane or refueling tanker"....the point is you wanted IN, just like 100% who ever tried to do so. Just like me...
When I was looking at it, I wasn't really interested in fighters - I wanted to be an airline pilot, so to my way of thinking transports would have had a lot more in common with that than fighters. Ironically, now when I go to an airshow I think, "I'd really like to do that for about a week..."
I'm not a psychologist, I didn't play one on TV, nor did I sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night; but I'm pretty certain I'm not just saying that to "lessen the mental and emotional pain..." in spite of the fact that I would have targeted MAC. Of course, looking back I fully realize that I might have changed my mind after I had the chance to "bank and yank" and "turn and burn," but that's another discussion.
Back to the actual topic of the thread: One doesn't get respect by buying their job, nor by getting into a large cabin business jet on their looks.
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