Yeah, but if everyone is doing volunteer work, then what's going to set you apart?

 

Yep, hiring was based on merit and recommendations back then. People you worked with at previous jobs would recommend you because they knew you were a good pilot and someone they would want to work with. The "a-holes and bad apples" never got recommendations from anyone, and thus were essentially blackballed.

It worked quite well. If someone was an a-hole, they would never be hired by a major. We actually had a couple of 727 CA's that fit the bill. An FO at our carrier got on with WN and before he left, he told a certain a-hole CA of ours that he would do everything he could to make sure that he would never be hired there. And WN was the CA's dream job.

So, you never knew who could torpedo your chances if you made enemies.

 

It's who can virtue signal the best, or whoever checks all of the "downtrodden boxes".

Did I mention that I'm an LGBTQ Native American who spends all of my free time as a community organizer?

 

And volunteer work is just working without getting paid.

 

So it's just like working at a regional.

 

I must have missed where I said anything about social service. Company A wants X. You don’t want to do X. The outcome is logic. If you want to work for Company A you should do X. If you don’t want to do X, totally cool, just don’t expect to get a job at Company A.

And y’all say millennials are entitled?

 

I’d just like to interject here and point out that nobody actually knows what “X” is. If it were that simple tho, everyone would do it. For example, I have flown with FOs in the last 12 months that have been hired at Spirit Frontier Jetblue and Atlas. They were not checkairmen or union volunteers or ASAP/FOQUA gatekeepers. (Tho the JetBlue guy did have Mil time)

So while I see both sides of this argument, I actually came on here because I was looking at the Airline Profiles on the main page. Just got a postcard in the mail from Go-Jet recruiting for its new CRJ550. They are throwing money out to get guys in seats and are offering a flow (still reading details so don’t shoot the messenger) to Spirit or Atlas, and ya, as a Regional Captain already this is tempting since I can’t even get an interview otherwise.

I personally think if you go to any regional w/out a flow you are shooting yourself in the foot, tho I can see first hand how already being at a dead end regional makes it difficult to start over again. Hind-sight being 20/20 and all...

 

Simple actually.....

Whomever has had their application in for the longest.

 

In today’s world, every employee is a walking P&L statement, do you produce a profit or a loss in how you do your job. Volunteer work, could be interpreted by the hiring people, as an indicator of willingness to engage with customers, go an extra mile to satisfy them. Just a four-year degree shows perseverance and effort. I’d bet their internal studies prove the case. They don’t make these standards up out of thin air.

 

THIS!


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