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Old 07-27-2010 | 09:02 PM
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Anyone have any information on where the new hires are going? I've heard rumors that most are headed to SJU, but I don't know if it's true. Is it a possibility to get hired and start at DFW? I don't care what I fly, I just want to live in Fort Worth and the thought of not having to commute is mighty nice!
The August 2nd class consists of:

5 NFC (New York FO CRJ)
5 OFE (Chicago FO EMJ)
3 SFA (San Juan FO ATR)
1 MFA (Miami FO ATR)

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Old 07-28-2010 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by onetogo
I've heard from several sources that the ATR is considered to offer better QOL than the jets. Anyone care to comment on this?
The QOL comes from the fact of holding a 'regular hard line' sooner instead of the long-term beating of jet reserve.

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To add to this... DFW ATR is getting to be a somewhat senior status. I am a 02/2008 DOH and can just now hold a line consistently. A lot of guy hired in the 6 months before I was are going to stick it out for a bit since a lot of them can hold commutable lines but would sit on reserve or as a junior line holder on the jet. If you want the jet in DFW be prepared to spend 3+ years on reserve. The ATR is probably going to run 1 1/2 to 2 years on reserve.
I mostly agree except for the last sentence. There is a February new-hire that is bidding 7 numbers below the lowest regular hard line holder for August. I count 12 DFA's on the flow plan, awaiting DFE class, that bid lines in August. I also suspect a couple more FO's to bail via the bid that closes tonight. Unless Eagle quits hiring, or reduces ATR flying in DFW, I'd guess DFA reserve drops to less than a year over the next 6 months. But then again, there is no way I'd bet my massive salary on that either

Originally Posted by Fr8Master
Anyone have any information on where the new hires are going? I've heard rumors that most are headed to SJU, but I don't know if it's true. Is it a possibility to get hired and start at DFW? I don't care what I fly, I just want to live in Fort Worth and the thought of not having to commute is mighty nice!
My current suggestion for anyone wanting DFW would be to bid the ATR. You might have to spend some time in SJU or MIA but hopefully able to bid DFW within a few months. There is, however, no guarantee of being DFW based promptly, regardless of equipment choice. This is after all, the airline industry we are talking about.
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Old 07-28-2010 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by onetogo
The August 2nd class consists of:

5 NFC (New York FO CRJ)
5 OFE (Chicago FO EMJ)
3 SFA (San Juan FO ATR)
1 MFA (Miami FO ATR)

Hope this helps!
Don't forget to add the disclaimer, "The above information is subject to change as late as August 2nd."

Last I heard, the official award is still on the first day of class. For any new-hire, the best advice is to have your preferences written down in priority order. If you are 'Junior', Eagle will make that choice for you.
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Old 07-28-2010 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by rollercoaster
The QOL comes from the fact of holding a 'regular hard line' sooner instead of the long-term beating of jet reserve.



I mostly agree except for the last sentence. There is a February new-hire that is bidding 7 numbers below the lowest regular hard line holder for August. I count 12 DFA's on the flow plan, awaiting DFE class, that bid lines in August. I also suspect a couple more FO's to bail via the bid that closes tonight. Unless Eagle quits hiring, or reduces ATR flying in DFW, I'd guess DFA reserve drops to less than a year over the next 6 months. But then again, there is no way I'd bet my massive salary on that either



My current suggestion for anyone wanting DFW would be to bid the ATR. You might have to spend some time in SJU or MIA but hopefully able to bid DFW within a few months. There is, however, no guarantee of being DFW based promptly, regardless of equipment choice. This is after all, the airline industry we are talking about.
Most likely only for the most senior new hires. Everyone else should plan on paying the reserve game for awhile.
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Old 07-28-2010 | 02:33 PM
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A great post from one of the other forums

SJU the rock as some of you call it is actually one of the best bases in terms of flight destinations. Its a different kind of flying in that it takes Men and Women and not boys and girls to fly some of the stuff they do down there. Destinations such as Dominica, Tortolla, Haiti will make you a better pilot overall if you can handle the task. The long overnights however are well worth the stress that the ATR may put some through in ground school.

In choosing an aircraft pick the one "like another said" that will give you the best quality of life and that you'll be happy on. From the ATR you can bid up to the Jet however as many a lot more senior than I will tell you, it doesn't work the other way around. The people in San Juan are nice if you come with an open mind and try to learn even a little spanish. If your single its the best base to be stationed at. Some places to stay are La Mancha, Coral Beach, and also Laguna Gardens. Talk to the crew members at the base who've been down there for a while and you will find a lot more options.

Unfortunately most gripe about going to SJU as they hear rumors about many different things, yet they've never experience these interactions for themselves. If you are lucky enough to be assigned SJU learn the international ops and extended overwater stuff. Enjoy St Maarteen 11:00am overnights where you have the whole day on the beach. Go down to Tortolla and fly over Sir Richard Bransons house or Dominica where your flying in a canyon.

The Jet is awesome but if your looking to fly more instead of sitting reserve the ATR is the place to be IMO.
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Old 07-28-2010 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by onetogo
Where is "here" ?

I've heard from several sources that the ATR is considered to offer better QOL than the jets. Anyone care to comment on this?
Sorry. Here is DFW. Several people coming from MIA and SJU that are new hires will hold lines in DFW when they get here October 1. One coming from MIA is 2 months off IOE and is holding a line in MIA.

Allow said and done though, people getting hired right now will have longer reserves most likely. DFW will have almost 20 new ATR FOs by November. MIA and SJU will be junior.
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Old 07-28-2010 | 07:48 PM
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What WERE the old mins???
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Old 07-28-2010 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by atpcliff
What WERE the old mins???
200 multi
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Old 07-30-2010 | 06:26 AM
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How long would reserve be for a new hire and how much per diem can one expect to receive in a given month. Also, are uniforms paid for by the company?
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Old 07-31-2010 | 05:35 AM
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Has anyone heard anything about an Aug 16th class or a later date for Aug?
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