If you are legacy, I wouldn't worry about it. They make a big deal about you guys during the winging process.

Thanks for the reassurance, but what's the winging process?

Here's a question. I'm a legacy, former employee, Intern, and current delta connection pilot. The catch is they were all for NWA, should I enter them in as Delta anyway?

The decision was made to not do pre-screens this time around; too many bases, and too difficult to ensure continuity and fairness of the pre-screen program. The pre-screen was a method allowed to get an applicant before someone in the CP office who would take their resume and application. If the pre-screen went well the applicant could then expect an interview invite via airlineapps shortly after the prescreen.

This time around it's strictly airline apps handling everything--no VFR direct.

Does anybody know if any of the former NWA poolies have been contacted by Delta this week?

met one last night, he showed me the email fwiw

see above ^^^

I dont know if it had anything to do with being a NWA poolie or not but none the less he just got the invite. good luck, i hope all of you guys get the interview!!

Where? I logged back in to airlineapps after getting this Yellow Fever email and there's nothing new added to the addendums

Don't know how its being handled this time, but last time you actually had to call the Cheif Pilot support center and schedule the date with them. They would tell you what was available, and you chose the date yourself.

If that's the way its going this time, those getting invites should be calling early next week, if they've not called already, and dates should be known then. (I'm sure most that have gotten invites are busy getting their ducks in a row, and don't have alot of time for forum commentary, too.)

Oh, and early July are the rumored interview start dates.

It's the very last question of the Addendum.


Also, winging process? Anyone?

Its an Air Force term when you graduate UPT.

Al,

I didn't think I knew a soul here at DAL, and therefore had no internal recs and was hired last time around anyway. I say it like that, because I could have done much more networking than I did. As it turns out, I have run into many guys I flew with in previous lives, and the kicker is that one of the VPs in the Company was a college drinking buddy! DOH. How bout that one for an example of crappy networking/keeping in touch with friends on my part. Getting hired here can, has, and will happen for those without internal recs too!

YMMV, and Good luck to all...Philly

Thanks Philly.

I do know some DAL guys and I've even flown with a couple who have yet to accept recall. However, it's been a very long time and I don't know them very well.

Here's hoping the call comes anyway.


AL

I'd recommend you get in touch with them and say hello. They did the same thing when they got hired and will know you need the same kind of help.

July 6th is a date that one of my buds got for an interview

could people who get interviews post their stats so the rest of us know how we compare going forward?
Thanks

During INDOC, the new class has a dinner and social. During that time, you get your Delta Wings from the Chief Pilot. If you are a legacy/family guy, there is a special introduction of the family members and yourself (ah, isn't that special (cheesy Churchlady impersonation).

Hey! Where's my dinner? :p:D

It is nice gesture for you and your wife or husband to attend. It was a very enjoyable evening that makes Delta, "Delta."

If you meet all of Delta's qualification my understanding is you will be getting a call.

I heard the same thing 12 yrs ago when I first submitted my Delta app.

Sounds like you have been in this industry for awhile so you must know that whenever a new hiring cycle starts the first people that get in are those who have some serious connections. It was that way last time around at both Delta and the former NWA and it will be that way this time around. Since you went into the pool some guys with great connections have become qualified and will get hired before anyone in the pool. After they get through those guys, then I'd expect them to give you a shot. I wouldn't hang it up yet and I would be careful with the attitude on this board because it isn't hard to figure out who is who here especially when you throw out your resume for everyone to see. Good luck and I am one who thinks that you along with everyone else in the pool should just be given class dates.

How do you know Delta is not going to do something for the NWA poolies?

+1, I just met one of our NWA poolies whom just got and interview invite. I'm not sure how he got it or if it was tied to him being a NWA poolie but i'm pretty certain it had something to do with it because of his situation. combine that with the fact that i'm hearing from multiple sources that the poolies will get calls I think the outlook is good.

By not making an announcement they can get by without offering those in the NWA pool an interview that dont meet DALs requirements and not risk a lawsuit.

Be patient, the invitations have just recently started being sent. Relax and let the process unfold (unlike on the last thread, yup, I contributed to) whoopsy:rolleyes:. You may go from despair to panic mode as you prepare for the interview of your professional life;)

You have GOT to stay positive! Sounds hokey but its true. And if Delta doesn't call, life will go on and other doors will open, but you have to put yourself in a position to open them. I don't have much to go on anymore than a hunch, but it's all moving in a positive direction.

I, as well as countless others know pilots in worse and better positions. Life?

And please be careful what you post on these forums, image does matter a bit. Find that inner Zen master! Patience...

I actually think it would be a travesty if Delta does not treat all the former poolies exactly the same. What ever they do for one they should do for all. That would be the only right thing to do.

Thanks for the support. Everything that could be said about the poolies has been said in that "one" thread. The horse has been atomized. It's done. I don't want Delta to give us interviews to go through the motion and satisfy some perceived obligation, legally or otherwise. Whatever. In the end they owe us nothing. Period. End of story.

If they call us for an interview, I want to know we have a shot, and that we just have to talk our way “out” of a job.

But thanks anyway.

i agree with you, but looking at it from DALs perspective is why i said that. If they give a pilot another interview with dal and he's already been turned down then others whom have been turned down in the past could cause a stink.

we'll see

Good advice.

Actually, one of them is an FO in the 75/76ER. Is it you?

If so, hello.


Al

NWApoolie,

Answer the question, exactly what has led you to believe that DAL doesn't want the poolies? Did you really think they would just put all of you in class? I was pullin for you guys, but come on! I knew all along the best you could hope for was an interview. Others have posted on here that poolies have received invites, just be patient. If you're qualified you will get an interview.

Back off on the "delta ruined my career" crap. if you haven't learned by now, the aviation industry sucks sometimes. Believe me, there is always a guy out there who has had it worse than you could imagine.

Sorry to hear you got shut out during the last round. When I read your comments I see a lot of negative coming through. The bottom line is that you were screwed to some degree. If you went through the process and were hired and just waiting for a class date only to watch the merger go down without you on board that really must have sucked.

That said, many people will only see what is perceived as a bad attitude coming through not having shared your grief and pain. I would like to see you still come over to Delta. I'm sure on most days outside of the disappointment of missing the boat last time you are a fun easy going guy. Let me give you some advise that mirrors what others here have said:

1. Start studying and be ready when you get the call. You will really regret it if you do get the call and screw up the testing/knowledge stuff.

2. Ask the moderator if he/she can remove your posts that give identifying information (the ones you have posted on this thread the last couple days including your background, flight time, equipment, etc).

3. Put the past behind you and get on board this round. Life most certainly is NOT fair (I know that from personal experience as well). Make something good happen now, be positive in the face of bad things that have happened and secure your future with no regrets.

Good luck to you!

PS- I interviewed in 2001 and had to wait 6 years for my next shot that was ultimately successful. Glad I gave it everything I had and never gave up. It can be the same with you.

(saying this as a friend)

You need to relax a little. This process has just started. I don't know why DAL has not recognized the poolies. But I also don't know why NWA didn't stick up for you all during the merger (perhaps theres much I don't know here, that happens alot. haha)

Right now, DAL is looking at applications and selecting from the best they have. That is their right and any company would do it. Give it time. If you are as clean and experienced as you say you are, you most likely will get a call.

My best advice, be hopeful, yet prepared for the worst.

I wouldn't expect anyone to get in this year that isn't highly qualified with massive mil/121 pic time. The reason is that there are only going to be a few off the street hiring positions until the flow is exhausted. Of the 305 pilots being hired almost 150 of them are flow-throughs. This isn't even accounting for the number of returning furloughs.

When/if hiring continues into next year, that's when hiring will open up a bit more for other guys like you and me. I know of another poolie who was called, but he is as qualified as the other people who are getting called. It's another hurry up and wait.

exactly. I feel I meet the qualifications but have no "real" expectation of the big D calling me for the few classes they will run this year. DAL pilots will get their buddies on board that have been waiting since 08 for a call. The others will be flow throughs. Just give it some time. Once all the buddies and flow throughs are in the rest of us will have a chance. It has been a long drought but it will change and things will get moving again. Till then we just need to keep carrying on.

Still the best route to Delta is through Compass. As long as that flow stays intact.

I think reading between the lines that NWAPoolie does not have the Delta required PIC time. I don't know how Delta is going to view this but I suspect they might not waive that requirement for fear of opening themselves up to legal action from others without the PIC time. I thought prior to the post he met all Delta qualifications. I have heard that all NWA poolies who meet the DAL minimums will get interviews. I will know more on that question next week.

Flight Time Requirements

• Minimum of 1,200 hours of total documented flight time
• Minimum of 1,000 hours of fixed wing turboprop or turbofan time

What PIC requirement?

I hope you get the call. As you prep for the interview however, I'd like to offer some advice.

Your posts here are coming off as a bit unhinged. If I were on the interview panel, and I'm not, I wouldn't be inclined to hire you. Delta is all about stable individuals who others would enjoy flying with. When you accuse the Delta hiring system of "stealing millions of dollars of future earnings" from you, that won't fly. Your ONLY expectation should be that Delta will offer you an interview. Period. Any thoughts to the contrary should be repressed and probably removed forever. Otherwise, you'll remain unemployed by Delta.

Secondly, the former NWA is not half of Delta. You probably should do some research there as well. They will probably ask you some questions about the company. Blind and uninformed statements won't get it done. Do some homework.

Good luck to you.

When evaluating the flight time of applicants meeting the basic qualifications, consideration will be given to, among other things, quality, quantity, recency, and verifiability of training; complexity of aircraft flown; types of flight operations; and hours flown as PIC in turbine powered aircraft. Applicants invited to interview must provide appropriate documentation of all flight hours.

I thought Delta had a PIC requirement. I believe they did in the last round of hiring. Since they don't I see no reason he should not get a interview. As mentioned above however I hope none of the pilots in the interview board connect the applicant with these posts.It wont help.