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beer 06-22-2010 10:48 AM

Is his hair always perfect?

forgot to bid 06-22-2010 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 830400)
Why would those pretty girls want to wear those ugly blue and orange colors? That's just poor taste.

The first time I saw a Florida-Auburn game at Auburn, the UF cheerleaders wore blue garter thingy on one thigh. Although that was 13 years ago, I still remember. :D


Originally Posted by Razorback flyer (Post 830462)
And with the magazine, I think you need to pick up both, then offer the choice to the guy next to you. (This shows you know your role as an FO is to let the Captain have first choice!) Just make sure you kindly ask him if you can have the cheerleader magazine when he's finished.

Oh well #$@%@#%, you give your best answer to that interview question, you pat yourself on the back and look at all three interviewers and wink at each one individually, and then you come out and ask that other guy interviewing how he answered that question and he says ^^^^^ that. And now you feel like a freaking moron. Man I hate that feeling.

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Which I'm not exaggerating. The question on you're Captain is drinking some beers and you're coming up on 8 hours. I had what I thought was a good answer, well rehearsed. I asked my good smart friend hired a few weeks later what he said and it was freaking brilliant. I quesitoned how I was even hired. I won't btw, say what he said, you've got to come up with your own answers to that standard question otherwise its not you answering.

I need to get that guy on the forums by the way, he reads but does not post, but he had an interesting medical story.

The lesson is patience and just be ready to run to the doctor asap to prove you don't have a problem and get that turned into them asap. As ACL told one poster, if you know in advance of an issue and OKC has signed off on it- bring proof with you and be done with it.

forgot to bid 06-22-2010 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by beer (Post 830460)
Y
I was told by the Doc that my EKG was weird. Had a cardiologist take a look and he said you have the same EKG as anyone who is 6'4.

I didn't have an EKG problem and we're the same height... maybe you just require more blood flow than most more often then most, just like you told the "crew room" in CDG that one time when we were on the ER, and all througout our time in college. :D

acl65pilot 06-22-2010 11:01 AM

More importantly FtB, a medical condition that is not on a waiver. Showing a waiver is easy, it is the stuff like color blindness that for some that does not have a waiver. Bring documentation.

That reminds me there is a color blindness test too.

Beer;
Perfect Hair..... One did.

Check Essential 06-22-2010 11:49 AM

Chronic priapism?

80ktsClamp 06-22-2010 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 830478)
I didn't have an EKG problem and we're the same height... maybe you just require more blood flow than most more often then most, just like you told the "crew room" in CDG that one time when we were on the ER, and all througout our time in college. :D

Seems as though they aren't very good at reading EKG's.

I'm a runner, and they jacked up my EKG as well. Got the leads backwards at first, didn't hook it up right, asked me if I'd ever had a heart attack (I was 25 at the time!), then said I needed to go see a specialist.

The specialist took one look at my EKG and said "there's nothing wrong with this- it looks like the leads were placed slightly off but that just shifts the picture... this is perfectly normal."

Derp derp derp...

80ktsClamp 06-22-2010 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by beer (Post 830473)
Is his hair always perfect?


I hear newK was recruited to teach him how to do his hair.

Eric Stratton 06-22-2010 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 830495)
Chronic priapism?

Duct tape hides that...

sandstorm 06-22-2010 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by LeineLodge (Post 829981)
I haven't actually seen the app, but from what he tells me there is no box to check for "NWA intern" only "Delta intern". After you check that box, apparently another box appears allowing him to elaborate that he was not actually a Delta intern, but a NWA intern.

Without doing it this way there is no way (I'm told) to input oneself as a former intern. Obviously he does not want to be perceived as "cute" or "tricking" the recruiters, hence my asking this question. Do you know whom I could contact to get the horse's mouth answer on his behalf as an active DAL pilot. A PM would be great :D Thanks!

Ok, now you've got me second guessing myself. Under the affiliations section there is a drop down menu. Regarding interns, there are two choices. Intern (Delta Air Lines) and Intern (Other Airlines). When they mean other airlines, are they referring only to other Delta Connection carriers? Or if I interned at say UA, AA, etc. would I select other? I originally had my "other airline" intership listed, but removed it, because I don't want to trick the system.

alvrb211 06-22-2010 03:06 PM


Originally Posted by beer (Post 830460)
Yes there was..I will shorten the story to help all of you out.

I was an FO at ASA. No PIC time. Had all my app in by mid january 07 and started checking my email 10 times a day(I feel all your pain.)

By mid March I was really getting impatient. I went to the AIR INC. conference in LA, shook some hands and gave out my resume. Got the invitation to interview one week later.:D

Interviewed in April 07 and F'ed up the cog test. They said, seeeya in 6 months.:mad: By the next week I was in upgrade school.

Re-interviewed October 07 and passed all of it. I was told by the Doc that my EKG was weird. Had a cardiologist take a look and he said you have the same EKG as anyone who is 6'4. One week later got the OK to Train email. That was the end of October and I started class January 08:D


FWIW...I had a friend that was a legacy and had not gotten the email to interview. My other friends who were legacies had already been hired. He went to a Women in Aviation conference, shook hands and got the interview.

Are you ML?


Al

acl65pilot 06-22-2010 03:20 PM

Other airline means just that. Other, as in not Delta. DO not read in to the question.

DAL73n 06-22-2010 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by Gearjerk (Post 830250)
Buzz,

If you feed the troll, it just means he'll return for more!! :rolleyes: Maybe FTB can make up a sign that states "Do Not Feed the Trolls", instead of Bears, or something to that nature!! (hint) :cool:

GJ

C'mon Buzz,

Don't make promises you can't keep - it's hard not bait the trolls.

iaflyer 06-22-2010 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by sandstorm (Post 830524)
Ok, now you've got me second guessing myself. Under the affiliations section there is a drop down menu. Regarding interns, there are two choices. Intern (Delta Air Lines) and Intern (Other Airlines). When they mean other airlines, are they referring only to other Delta Connection carriers? Or if I interned at say UA, AA, etc. would I select other? I originally had my "other airline" intership listed, but removed it, because I don't want to trick the system.

When I got hired in 08, I put "Other Airlines" , because mine was a USAir Express. It wasn't mentioned in the interview, from what I remember.

acl65pilot 06-22-2010 03:59 PM

Beer is not just lucky he is good!

reddog25 06-22-2010 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by Razorback flyer (Post 830462)
Taylor,
I would imagine you're just a bit below competitive mins right now.


You're kidding right???

acl65pilot 06-22-2010 04:08 PM

Most civilians that are getting the call have at least 1500 121 PIC. That is a moving target I am sure

tsquare 06-22-2010 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 830400)
Why would those pretty girls want to wear those ugly blue and orange colors? That's just poor taste.

This^^^^^^^^^^^^

KC10 FATboy 06-22-2010 05:00 PM

I have a question to put out into the forum for the DAL pilots who might have some suggestions.

Is there any chance of a person being hired by DAL who was former military and pled guilty at a military court martial?

The person has been working at a 121 carrier, has 2500 PIC hours and 5000 total turbine hours, including roughly 1000 military heavy hours.

Cubdrick 06-22-2010 05:10 PM

ACL (and others who have an opinion),

On the DAL addendum, "Have you ever been the subject of an evaluation board or been removed from flight status, downgraded, or failed any portion of flight training either civilian or military?"

I was prior military and received a SOD/Down, then continued training as normal after the standard paperwork. How would you answer: "yes" "no" or "yes" with clarification/explanation?

Thanks to all in advance,
Cubdrick

(It was Defensive BFM for those wondering.)

acl65pilot 06-22-2010 05:26 PM

Cub, check your PM's.

Hawaii50 06-22-2010 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by Cubdrick (Post 830632)
ACL (and others who have an opinion),

On the DAL addendum, "Have you ever been the subject of an evaluation board or been removed from flight status, downgraded, or failed any portion of flight training either civilian or military?"

I was prior military and received a SOD/Down, then continued training as normal after the standard paperwork. How would you answer: "yes" "no" or "yes" with clarification/explanation?

Thanks to all in advance,
Cubdrick

(It was Defensive BFM for those wondering.)

My opinion is yes with an explanation. It probably won't come up on the interview but if it does and you're honest, positive, and learned something, it'll probably actually help. Good luck!

dragon 06-22-2010 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 830623)
I have a question to put out into the forum for the DAL pilots who might have some suggestions.

Is there any chance of a person being hired by DAL who was former military and pled guilty at a military court martial?

The person has been working at a 121 carrier, has 2500 PIC hours and 5000 total turbine hours, including roughly 1000 military heavy hours.

First thing that comes to mind is what type of court. General Special or Summary. If I remember my justice course correctly, an Officer can't have a summary but the other two carry a Federal Court felony conviction. If he was enlisted and received a summary, it's a misdemeanor.

I would think his only hope is to be honest and be able to demonstrate good integrity and work ethic since. However, I also think it'll be an uphill battle, too many folks without that type of stain right now.

KC10 FATboy 06-22-2010 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by Cubdrick (Post 830632)
ACL (and others who have an opinion),

On the DAL addendum, "Have you ever been the subject of an evaluation board or been removed from flight status, downgraded, or failed any portion of flight training either civilian or military?"

I was prior military and received a SOD/Down, then continued training as normal after the standard paperwork. How would you answer: "yes" "no" or "yes" with clarification/explanation?

Thanks to all in advance,
Cubdrick

(It was Defensive BFM for those wondering.)

When I was going through the hiring process, I marked yes to this question because I failed a navigation checkride during UPT. I explained what I failed, why I failed it, and that I've never failed a checkride since. It didn't come up in the interview and I was hired.

thrustreversers 06-22-2010 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 830571)
Other airline means just that. Other, as in not Delta. DO not read in to the question.

So is an internship at pre-merger Northwest considered Delta or not? I'm wracking my brain here trying to figure this one out. What would you guys suggest? I'm only asking because I selected Delta and then gave a detailed explanation in the box below it. Now I'm second-guessing myself. Thanks!

forgot to bid 06-22-2010 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 830502)
Seems as though they aren't very good at reading EKG's.

I'm a runner, and they jacked up my EKG as well. Got the leads backwards at first, didn't hook it up right, asked me if I'd ever had a heart attack (I was 25 at the time!), then said I needed to go see a specialist.

The specialist took one look at my EKG and said "there's nothing wrong with this- it looks like the leads were placed slightly off but that just shifts the picture... this is perfectly normal."

Derp derp derp...

There was a candidate and friend of mine in a class not long after yours that went to have his blood drawn at said institution of higher medicine. They missed the vein or whatever they're after. Tried again. Again. Again. Again. Again. Other arm. Again. Again. Try stabbing him and then moving the needle untl you hit the vein. Uh oh, he passed out. Well there must be something wrong with him, tell Delta he's a no go.

That got corrected pretty quick with a call from his doctor, who was outraged. I'd have to get more specifics on the story but thats how it was explained to me.

Now that said, my experience was straight forward (a few months later) minus my high Delta fever of course.

acl65pilot 06-22-2010 05:53 PM

Who knows, but when you did you internship, NWA was not DAL. So if it were me doing the app, I would put other airline, and then put NWA.

That is just being being factually honest, and I could be wrong.

acl65pilot 06-22-2010 05:55 PM

Hey they did my EKG wrong too. They freaked out, told me to settle down when I started to tell them that their leads were in the wrong place. The Dr came in and told them the same thing. Kind of humorous to say the least, but not too funny when your dream job relies upon them doing theirs.

forgot to bid 06-22-2010 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 830665)
When I was going through the hiring process, I marked yes to this question because I failed a navigation checkride during UPT. I explained what I failed, why I failed it, and that I've never failed a checkride since. It didn't come up in the interview and I was hired.

I'd suspect a majority of pilots mark yes to this. I didn't pass my initial ride on the EMB-120 as an FO, actually I had an incomplete because I did a go-around at 1500' because I got off the LOC while OEI, while stupidly trying to do two jobs at once, and at another point I got close to exceeding 250 below 10,000', I didn't break, just got close. Turns out the next LCA said that incompletes weren't allowed anymore so it had to change to a fail. But I don't even know if my record shows fail or anything as it wasn't a type ride. I explained it, done, no problems. I figured they had the record there in front of them.

Looking back two other people had "incompletes" with me including one that didn't bust any mins or procedures but her LCA just wanted to see her fly again, the second LCA scoffed and just had her takeoff and land VFR and was done. And another who put the gear down a dot below GS while OEI when OEI is on GS. Oh well. Hell, a Captain friend failed his ride because he failed to notice his engine failed while in an idle descent, he noticed when the power came up. They said you should've noticed 30 seconds earlier, but its okay here's your pink slip but you did so well I'm going to mark you down as pass and you can continue to aircraft training. ?!??????? idiots. Same place that did engine failures during your steep turns and compounded different emergencies on top of each other during a checkride.

Check Essential 06-22-2010 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 830623)
I have a question to put out into the forum for the DAL pilots who might have some suggestions.

Is there any chance of a person being hired by DAL who was former military and pled guilty at a military court martial?

Depends what he pled guilty to.
If it was a crime of "moral turpitude" then I would say no way.

scambo1 06-22-2010 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 830681)
Depends what he pled guilty to.
If it was a crime of "moral turpitude" then I would say no way.

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Is underboob moral turpitude?

beer 06-22-2010 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by alvrb211 (Post 830562)
Are you ML?


Al


No..Strictly Civ.

Superpilot92 06-22-2010 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 830699)
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Is underboob moral turpitude?

http://roflrazzi.files.wordpress.com...x-sideboob.jpg

scambo1 06-22-2010 08:01 PM

Sideboob is not moral turpitude. Super you've got to do better than that.

On a related note, did they not airbrush out her silicone implant scar on that photo or am I seeing things?

KC10 FATboy 06-22-2010 08:10 PM

Speaking of body parts and all things medical, when I did the physical at the unnamed urgent care facility, my EKG came back "abnormal". The doctor told me not to worry as this happens "a lot." The doctor told me if my cholesterol and other blood vitals were ok, I wouldn't have any issues. But they wouldn't know until the blood work came back. That should have been two business days. However ...

I did the physical on Christmas eve. That meant, my blood work and paperwork wasn't processed over the holidays. I didn't hear anything until the 2nd week of January! That was a very nerve racking 3 weeks of my life.

80ktsClamp 06-22-2010 08:32 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 830667)
There was a candidate and friend of mine in a class not long after yours that went to have his blood drawn at said institution of higher medicine. They missed the vein or whatever they're after. Tried again. Again. Again. Again. Again. Other arm. Again. Again. Try stabbing him and then moving the needle untl you hit the vein. Uh oh, he passed out. Well there must be something wrong with him, tell Delta he's a no go.

That got corrected pretty quick with a call from his doctor, who was outraged. I'd have to get more specifics on the story but thats how it was explained to me.

Now that said, my experience was straight forward (a few months later) minus my high Delta fever of course.


I believe that happened the day after me. Did he end up getting the job? What a travesty if not.

She did the same with me and luckily I have a really high tolerance for that. I've never seen anyone actually try to dig around in my skin. I've got very easy to hit veins too... just clench a bit and you can see them no prob.

"Hey um..instead of digging around in there, would you mind going after the big blue one right there that's bulging out?"

Absolutely serious that I said that...

scambo1 06-22-2010 08:33 PM


Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 830734)
Speaking of body parts and all things medical, when I did the physical at the unnamed urgent care facility, my EKG came back "abnormal". The doctor told me not to worry as this happens "a lot." The doctor told me if my cholesterol and other blood vitals were ok, I wouldn't have any issues. But they wouldn't know until the blood work came back. That should have been two business days. However ...

I did the physical on Christmas eve. That meant, my blood work and paperwork wasn't processed over the holidays. I didn't hear anything until the 2nd week of January! That was a very nerve racking 3 weeks of my life.

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KC;

I feel your pain, but we are talking about underboob on this thread...How bout it Super.

I hope everybody gets hired by the way. A little turpitude is good if its in the right places.

KC10 FATboy 06-22-2010 08:54 PM

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images...1243599283.jpg

80ktsClamp 06-22-2010 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 830749)


I figured the some of the wisest words ever spoken on APCF needed repeating...

All those who have ears, hear..... all those who have eyes... enjoy!

scambo1 06-22-2010 09:06 PM


Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 830749)

YES IT DOES !!!
Lunchtime!

Thats a great picture How do I make her my screen saver?

KC10 FATboy 06-22-2010 09:19 PM

I think that picture has it all ... sideboob, underboob, and cleavage. What more could you ask for?


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