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Old 07-12-2010 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Wuzzo
For those of you smart on the training process, could you answer a few questions?

- How long is indoc training?
- I've heard indoc classes of 30 per class, is that about right?
- If that's right, how long do you think it will take for them to get to the end of this 305-pilot hire?
Indoc is 2 weeks. Then you go to the sims. Time in between will vary depending on the airplane you were assigned and how busy they are. Since the first group has yet to go through this, anyone's guess is as good as any. In the past, I've heard of guys waiting anywhere from less than a week to two months between indoc and sims.

Indoc classes have averaged around 30 per class. I was in one of the two classes in 2008 that had 50 and they acknowledged that was too big. Too much to cover in too little time with so many people. I doubt you'll see another class with more than 30 or so.
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Old 07-12-2010 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Wuzzo
For those of you smart on the training process, could you answer a few questions?

- How long is indoc training?
- I've heard indoc classes of 30 per class, is that about right?
- If that's right, how long do you think it will take for them to get to the end of this 305-pilot hire?
Two weeks for indoc then aircraft school

Depends,

Guess, guess.
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Old 07-12-2010 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
So I am hearing in the crewroom that Jul 29 - Aug 2ish they'll be done with interviews for the year and have hit their number.

Well, if that is true, I wonder if they will even attend the Job Fair Aug 28th.
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Old 07-12-2010 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
Seems low - lets look at the numbers.

Someone in charge said about 59% were making it through the interview. When I interviewed in 2007, there were 8 of us - I don't know if how many they interviewed per day this time . So they interviewed for about a month this time - 4 weeks x 5 days, 20 days. 20 * 8 is 160 x 0.59 is 95 or so. Add 45 or 50 furlough bypass is 145 or 150. Even with the flows from Mesaba and Compass, that doesn't seem like it adds up to the 305 they said they would hire this year.
Well, lets put it this way, if they're only hiring 4 days a week (mo-th) and you want to hire 150 people, and you started on June 23rd, then by the last week of July (the rumored original goal) you've interviewed for 22 days which x 8 x 60% pass rate nets you 105 people. Interview one more week, the week of Aug 2nd, and you'll net 124 people.

Now if they were running 5 days a week, 33 interview days, then you'll net 160 people.

But this is all based on 8 interviewee's per day.

It might not be far off, its just what I am heard today from a reliable source.

I guess the real way to answer this is to ask, does anyone have an Aug 2 or later date?
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Old 07-12-2010 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by bull
Well, if that is true, I wonder if they will even attend the Job Fair Aug 28th.
My guess is by all means they'll be there.

If I'm not mistaken they were at job fairs in 2008 and 2009, if I heard right. They're not announcing they're ending hiring, it just might be what people predicted and that was hiring and then a lull and then hiring later for next year.
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Old 07-12-2010 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Well, lets put it this way, if they're only hiring 4 days a week (mo-th) and you want to hire 150 people, and you started on June 23rd, then by the last week of July (the rumored original goal) you've interviewed for 22 days which x 8 x 60% pass rate nets you 105 people. Interview one more week, the week of Aug 2nd, and you'll net 124 people.

Now if they were running 5 days a week, 33 interview days, then you'll net 160 people.

But this is all based on 8 interviewee's per day.

It might not be far off, its just what I am heard today from a reliable source.

I guess the real way to answer this is to ask, does anyone have an Aug 2 or later date?

It all depends on the flow. No flow means more hiring off the street. This has yet to be seen.
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Old 07-12-2010 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by DedRecon
Good to know. I keep hearing Delta is Reserves friendly. I just don't want to make waves by doing too much reserve duty while on probation.
DAL is extremely reserve friendly. I've not had any problems getting off work for MLOA. They have a pretty nifty Military Leave Handbook. It tells you your responsibilities. As long as you are faxing them orders (for long term stuff) or have them on file (for the shorter stuff RMPs RUTAs etc.), they won't hassle you.

I've heard them calling the Squadron Commander if you are on orders on the holiday. However, they don't whine when the CC says you are needed.

One last thing ... you only need 400 hours OR a year, whichever comes first for probation. In NYC, on the mad-diggity-dog, I was a line holder my first month on property and was off probation in 5-6 months. Goodtimes.
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Old 07-12-2010 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
Seems low - lets look at the numbers.

Someone in charge said about 59% were making it through the interview. When I interviewed in 2007, there were 8 of us - I don't know if how many they interviewed per day this time . So they interviewed for about a month this time - 4 weeks x 5 days, 20 days. 20 * 8 is 160 x 0.59 is 95 or so. Add 45 or 50 furlough bypass is 145 or 150. Even with the flows from Mesaba and Compass, that doesn't seem like it adds up to the 305 they said they would hire this year.
I don't think they start a new group every day of the week; Thursday is likely the last day of the week when they start a new group to allow for the physical and psych interview on Friday.
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Old 07-12-2010 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Jesse
I don't think they start a new group every day of the week; Thursday is likely the last day of the week when they start a new group to allow for the physical and psych interview on Friday.
Thanks, I forgot about that. So - they interviewed even less.

But, FTB said he heard in the crew room they were almost done interviewing ... where lately it's been hard to hear anything with those darn horns blaring from the World Cup.

Also, someone said they called for an interview and was told all the spots were full. Kinda odd, but who knows.
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Old 07-12-2010 | 05:18 PM
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I think rumours are taking on a life of their own here.

Last I had heard, They had interview slots filled up through the end of July. Those inteviews would likely fill up any August, September, and possibly October classes. If the flow continues, the compass/mesaba guys that were held back 90 days would need most of the slots in Nov/Dec, so you wouldn't need many street hires to fill those classes.

The version of the rumor I'm hearing is they are taking a pause because they need to figure out if the flow is still happening or not. If it is, they don't need as many street hires, and don't want to create a huge pool (Delta's not been into 100+ person pools. They generally seem to want to send a person to class within 60 days or so of the interview - at least with civilians.) If something happens that the flow is not available, they'll need more bodies from the street, and it should be game-on full bore again in August.

I don't think hirring numbers have changed any. Most recent base visits (which happened last week,) and other info comming out hasn't mentioned a change in the game plan for the numbers.
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