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PurpleTwinkie 07-29-2010 05:15 PM

Pinnacle hiring...
 
Hi folks,

So, I don't know anything about regional airlines or what's currently going on. I'm a corporate pilot out of work and need a job. Pinnacle is advertising on BizJetJobs.com for first officer positions. I'm gathering info on the company and sector of the industry now but curious as to this communities opinions and info on the subject.

Thanks,

PT

piper338 07-29-2010 05:20 PM

I'm sorry, but what's a (Purple Twinkie)?

PurpleTwinkie 07-29-2010 05:57 PM

Let's stay on topic here folks. Lol :D

Don't really know. From an old cowboy joke that I can't remember.

dogpilot 07-29-2010 06:05 PM

don't do it
 
If I could, in all seriousness, make one recommendation, DON'T GO TO PINNACLE!!!! If you are desperate and have no other options go to Mcdonalds. You will be treated like a child and feel forever less than human. There are so many options outside of that disaster. I wouldn't suggest my worst enemy go there. Best of luck in your decisions.

higney85 07-29-2010 06:46 PM

I will not stoop on down to throwing around the banter but pinnacle is hiring. That being said the hiring currently is out of the "pool" of Mesaba furloughs. Once everyone has been offered and accepted/bypassed that list outside hiring is a strong possibility of continued hiring (I won't go as guaranteeing something I have no say in). Currentry posted mins are 1000/200. Keep in mind there is also a 5 year contract negotiation, 3 pilot groups being turned into 2, and a process that hasn't been established and agreed to in terms of an end product. Your choice to try to come to pinnacle or NOT is your decision but I would spend some time researching it all before just going full bore over an ad. Just my .02

PurpleTwinkie 07-29-2010 07:10 PM

Lol.... So intense. Thanks y'all.

Lone Palm 07-29-2010 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by higney85 (Post 847831)
I will not stoop on down to throwing around the banter but pinnacle is hiring. That being said the hiring currently is out of the "pool" of Mesaba furloughs. Once everyone has been offered and accepted/bypassed that list outside hiring is a strong possibility of continued hiring (I won't go as guaranteeing something I have no say in). Currentry posted mins are 1000/200. Keep in mind there is also a 5 year contract negotiation, 3 pilot groups being turned into 2, and a process that hasn't been established and agreed to in terms of an end product. Your choice to try to come to pinnacle or NOT is your decision but I would spend some time researching it all before just going full bore over an ad. Just my .02


Hopefully 3 pilot groups turned into ONE LIST, ONE CONTRACT

Copperhed51 07-29-2010 07:44 PM

Not that I think it's a bad thing but why is Pinnacle helping out the Mesaba guys? There are plenty of other airlines out there with tons of guys on furlough. I'm having trouble following the industry BS these days so I can't remember if there's a reason Pinnacle would owe this to the Mesaba guys so can somebody clue me in here? Thanks.

PeezDog 07-29-2010 07:44 PM

I agree, look into every airline and talk to people, don't just jump into something you may regret. I don't work for Pinnacle so I can't say what it's like to work there. A few other airlines MAY be hiring in the near future. Just what I've been hearing so take it for what it's worth (Skywest, ASA are a few I heard). Maybe if you wait a little bit something better will come along. I don't know what experience you have, but Delta, Air Tran, and Eagle are also hiring are the ones I can name off the top of my head. If you have the experience I would put in for somewhere other than a regional first. Just my 2.

hockeypilot44 07-29-2010 08:18 PM

If you see an ad for a job, there's almost always a catch.

Hint: The good jobs do not need to advertise themselves to get applicants.

SlowATRDriver 07-29-2010 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 847883)
If you see an ad for a job, there's almost always a catch.

Hint: The good jobs do not need to advertise themselves to get applicants.

Trust me there is no catch. I wouldn't be surprised if Pinnacle got 1000 applications for 10 openings.

Yzerman 07-29-2010 09:09 PM


Originally Posted by Copperhed51 (Post 847863)
Not that I think it's a bad thing but why is Pinnacle helping out the Mesaba guys? There are plenty of other airlines out there with tons of guys on furlough. I'm having trouble following the industry BS these days so I can't remember if there's a reason Pinnacle would owe this to the Mesaba guys so can somebody clue me in here? Thanks.

because pinnacle bought mesaba

Copperhed51 07-29-2010 09:11 PM


Originally Posted by Yzerman (Post 847899)
because pinnacle bought mesaba

Wow, I'm an idiot. So why isn't Compass hiring the TSA furloughees?

SlowATRDriver 07-29-2010 09:14 PM


Originally Posted by Copperhed51 (Post 847900)
Wow, I'm an idiot. So why isn't Compass hiring the TSA furloughees?

Maybe if they meet the minimums:
1500TT, 500ME, 4year degree, eligibilty to obtain an ATP.

Stratosphere 07-29-2010 10:52 PM


Originally Posted by piper338 (Post 847796)
I'm sorry, but what's a (Purple Twinkie)?

I think it is a gay FedEx pilot.......:D

PurpleTwinkie 07-29-2010 11:17 PM

Nice!.................. Lol

Kellwolf 07-30-2010 07:40 AM


Originally Posted by Copperhed51 (Post 847900)
Wow, I'm an idiot. So why isn't Compass hiring the TSA furloughees?

Who knows? Teamsters hate ALPA and vice versa? It does make it easier having the same union represent all three pilot groups. At list it's an ice breaker for a civil dialogue, and WHEN SLI time comes, there are guidelines in place rather than a free for all where people argue over federal laws and scope clauses, although I'm sure that will happen here, too.

Having XJ and 9E as ALPA made it to where the XJ guys were able to have "portable longevity," too. They'll port their longevity from XJ over to 9E (not seniority), so they're at least not starting totally from square one. Offering jobs to the XJ furloughees first was, IMO, the right thing to do considering we're all in this mess together.

Kenny Powers 07-30-2010 09:51 AM

What's the likelihood of holding MEM as a new-hire right now? Only reason I ask is since I live here and I couldn't imagine commuting to this job....

johnso29 07-30-2010 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by Kenny Powers (Post 848065)
What's the likelihood of holding MEM as a new-hire right now? Only reason I ask is since I live here and I couldn't imagine commuting to this job....

My guess is not very likely, especially with a JFK base opening. Maybe I'm wrong, but to my knowledge MEM is a senior Pinnacle base.

Kenny Powers 07-30-2010 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 848072)
My guess is not very likely, especially with a JFK base opening. Maybe I'm wrong, but to my knowledge MEM is a senior Pinnacle base.

Wow, that's going to be a s$%t-sandwich!

higney85 07-30-2010 10:43 AM

We need pilots in all the bases, I think we may be surprised by JFK.

PinnacleFO 07-30-2010 12:34 PM

has anyone heard any info about the meeting with the company yesterday? I am curious to know thier plans going forward.

higney85 07-30-2010 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by PinnacleFO (Post 848161)
has anyone heard any info about the meeting with the company yesterday? I am curious to know thier plans going forward.

Expect an update in the next few days. I'm waiting to hear back on what is under confidentiality before I speak but it's my understanding that the meeting was supposed to be public knowledge afterwards.

Silver02ex 07-30-2010 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 848072)
My guess is not very likely, especially with a JFK base opening. Maybe I'm wrong, but to my knowledge MEM is a senior Pinnacle base.

I would say MSP is more senior than MEM... I'm about 40% in MSP and about 30% in MEM

Rama04 07-30-2010 02:53 PM

Higney,
how will JFK surprise us?

higney85 07-30-2010 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by Rama04 (Post 848210)
Higney,
how will JFK surprise us?

I have no source and it's truly just my opinion but there seems to be far more interest in JFK than when ATL showed up... And it's only a -200 base. I *imagine* it will be very junior on the FO side, but I think there are many FO's bidding JFK CA for the left seat. I have no facts, just basing an opinion on crewroom gossip and the calls I have been getting from seemingly all bases.

Rook 08-01-2010 08:01 AM


Originally Posted by Kenny Powers (Post 848074)
Wow, that's going to be a s$%t-sandwich!


Love The Audio Tapes Kenny!

YouTube - KENNY POWERS audio tapes
:D

KentSt22 08-01-2010 12:11 PM

Just curious how senior is the DTW base? Also, any ideas what competitive mins would be?

8Lpearlchannel 08-01-2010 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by higney85 (Post 848214)
I have no source and it's truly just my opinion but there seems to be far more interest in JFK than when ATL showed up... And it's only a -200 base. I *imagine* it will be very junior on the FO side, but I think there are many FO's bidding JFK CA for the left seat. I have no facts, just basing an opinion on crewroom gossip and the calls I have been getting from seemingly all bases.

Fun winter times ahead for brand new CA's being based in JFK with newhire FO's!

joethepilot 08-01-2010 07:36 PM

All Pinnacle new hires will be below Mesaba Furloughs. That includes future furloughs. So if you get hired off the street now, and in a year mesaba furloughs another 100 pilots and they come to pinnacle those pilots will be above you on the seniority list. Think about that long and hard before you take an off the street job @ pinnacle.

joethepilot 08-01-2010 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by 8Lpearlchannel (Post 849072)
Fun winter times ahead for brand new CA's being based in JFK with newhire FO's!

Actually many of the JFK FO's will be Mesaba furloughs. Many of them have at least 2 winters in the airplane under their belts.

PinnacleFO 08-07-2010 04:58 AM


Originally Posted by joethepilot (Post 849293)
Actually many of the JFK FO's will be Mesaba furloughs. Many of them have at least 2 winters in the airplane under their belts.

Vacancy just came out - just an update for mesaba new hires, unfortunately only half of the JFK FO spots were filled leaving about 25 or so spots for new hires. Hopefully there will be a couple more vacancies soon as I know many of you are from the MSP area i am sure. The only good news from that is that if you are near the top of that 25 you may get a line or weekends off on reserve at least.

djrogs03 08-16-2010 05:55 AM

Does anyone have an email and/or a phone number in the HR/hiring department over at Pinnacle? thanks!

PinnacleFO 08-16-2010 06:01 AM


Originally Posted by djrogs03 (Post 856482)
Does anyone have an email and/or a phone number in the HR/hiring department over at Pinnacle? thanks!

just call the main number on the website, they will give you what you need.

engine46 08-16-2010 06:24 AM


Originally Posted by djrogs03 (Post 856482)
Does anyone have an email and/or a phone number in the HR/hiring department over at Pinnacle? thanks!

Don't bother, they won't reply, pick up, or call you back.

vtx531 08-16-2010 06:26 AM

First batch of XJ refugees hit the line this week (OE). Look for us in our blue uniforms...not joking - M&H is running very slow.

HIREME 08-16-2010 06:29 AM


Originally Posted by PinnacleFO (Post 856485)
just call the main number on the website, they will give you what you need.

Just a heads up, after your initial call you will be instructed to meet a "Representative" at a crossroad near Dockery Plantation, in Mississippi about one hour from headquarters in MEM, at midnight. There you will be met by a large man (the "Representative") who will take your hand in his and "bless" you with the skills needed to fly at Pinnacle. The "Representative" will show you a few approaches in a 200 sim and then return the sim to you, the "Candidate", giving you mastery of the equiptment. This is, in effect, a deal with "The Company", any apparant mirroring of the legend of Faust or Robert Johnson is considered coincidence in the eyes of "The Company", "The Company" will therefore incur no legal liabilities. Representation by the Law offices of Daniel Webster is strictly forbidden. In exchange for your "committment, you will be able to master the CRJ-200/900 for which you may become poor and potentially famous (see: infamous).

cencal83406 08-17-2010 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by vtx531 (Post 856497)
First batch of XJ refugees hit the line this week (OE). Look for us in our blue uniforms...not joking - M&H is running very slow.

Welcome! Not surprising about the uniforms thing one bit, but hey, oh well.

What did you think of the training, as compared to Mesaba's?

TheSultanofScud 08-25-2010 01:45 PM

I applied not too long ago as an off-the-street, non-furlough to both Colgan and Pinnacle via Airline Apps. I was one of the 60-80 people that were in the Mesaba hiring pool since January of 2009...

I was hoping that since Pinnacle was picking up Mesaba furloughs, they might also re-examine poolies.

Has anyone in a similar situation received a call or email, "Dear John" or otherwise?

Thanks in advance; a buddy of mine is a senior FO at Mesaba and indicated be thought there were good things to come for the three companies since the mergers/acquisitions...I took his advice and applied, but haven't heard any news since (It's been nine days).

arondeau 08-25-2010 01:50 PM

I can't believe we are going to work in XJ colors. I'll be on the line next week. See you guys there!


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