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Radio 02-21-2017 03:35 PM

Same here. I've heard the next ground school would be in the summer, possibly June. Let's not get down by this, the door is still open :)

Meanwhile, I'll be continuing my CFI to build hours until then. Good luck guys.

Javichu 02-21-2017 03:36 PM

Good mentality!. Good luck :)

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pocho 02-21-2017 03:39 PM

Lol, I was in the middle of a haircut and told my barber to stop so I could take the call.

Frozen Ronin 02-26-2017 06:12 PM

Triple Mailer: Awesome name! Surprised that one wasn't picked up a decade ago!

Sounds different now, in the village. Everyone stay safe. Part 91.3 means it's all up to you.

newpilotusa 02-27-2017 05:23 PM

How many flight hours does the average new hire pilot bring in every month? Are they currently hiring? How does the hiring process work?

StandEmUp 03-07-2017 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by newpilotusa (Post 2310356)
How many flight hours does the average new hire pilot bring in every month? Are they currently hiring? How does the hiring process work?

Bump to this, sounds like a sweet gig. Are you out of state guys doing skype interviews or are you traveling up there?

Javichu 03-07-2017 07:02 PM

Videoconference!!

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C340 03-11-2017 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by Javichu (Post 2316045)
Videoconference!!

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Is that what that GoToMeeting thing is? I thought it was just the voice feature of that service. Did they specifically tell you it was a video interview?

Javichu 03-11-2017 08:42 PM

They send an email, with all the details. Mine is the 28th so I don't know how's gonna be exactly

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Fast Eddie 03-14-2017 02:47 PM

Hello all! Could anyone share some insight on life with Cass. I like the 14 on/off. Would it be crazy to think one could Cass from say Dallas:) each shift? Sure might get old fast but that option is very appealing. Would the to and from cut to much into the 14 off to even be worth it? Thanks in advance

Panzon 03-14-2017 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by Fast Eddie (Post 2320585)
Hello all! Could anyone share some insight on life with Cass. I like the 14 on/off. Would it be crazy to think one could Cass from say Dallas:) each shift? Sure might get old fast but that option is very appealing. Would the to and from cut to much into the 14 off to even be worth it? Thanks in advance

Commuting from the lower 48 is very doable. Guys come in from the East Coast, Midwest, and West Coast. Most likely you would go through SEA.

TheNotoriousPIC 03-16-2017 09:19 AM

Are all of the spots filled for the next hiring class or do I still have a chance? I sent in my resume via fax two days ago and via email to the Chief Pilot yesterday. I wondering if I should call the company headquarters and get in contact with someone in the hiring department. Like many low timers that right seat in the 208 is the best shot I have.

Javichu 03-16-2017 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by TheNotoriousPIC (Post 2321832)
Are all of the spots filled for the next hiring class or do I still have a chance? I sent in my resume via fax two days ago and via email to the Chief Pilot yesterday. I wondering if I should call the company headquarters and get in contact with someone in the hiring department. Like many low timers that right seat in the 208 is the best shot I have.

You better be patient. We've been trying for months now, got interviews scheduled, they called to reschedule one month later, etc...
It's not a matter of days

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C340 03-16-2017 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by Javichu (Post 2321867)
You better be patient. We've been trying for months now, got interviews scheduled, they called to reschedule one month later, etc...
It's not a matter of days

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Just saw Trump wants to eliminate EAS spending in his new budget. That really could slow things down.

TheNotoriousPIC 03-16-2017 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by C340 (Post 2321903)
Just saw Trump wants to eliminate EAS spending in his new budget. That really could slow things down.

I saw that, too. Surprising because so many rural communities that voted heavily for Trump rely on those services. And for people in my position looking for a first job it's the last push in the direction of CFI.

C340 03-16-2017 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by TheNotoriousPIC (Post 2321941)
I saw that, too. Surprising because so many rural communities that voted heavily for Trump rely on those services. And for people in my position looking for a first job it's the last push in the direction of CFI.

Hold up, I actually just looked into this and found all the EAS routes and who flies them: https://www.transportation.gov/sites...b_1_2017_0.pdf

Am I the only one here who does not see Hageland/Ravn anywhere on this list?

RIP Grant though...

TheNotoriousPIC 03-16-2017 01:36 PM

I think you're right. Who knows? If these other companies go under Hageland may have to expand to pick up the slack.

Javichu 03-16-2017 02:29 PM

the best advice given in this forum for job seekers------> get your CFI. I just have to admit it. Plus you make twice as much than any caravan/pc12 SIC out there

Rangi 03-16-2017 04:26 PM

Hageland's life blood is bypass mail.

Given the s$$t trump is going after, doubt they will be around long once he catches wind of that program.

TheNotoriousPIC 03-16-2017 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by Javichu (Post 2322119)
the best advice given in this forum for job seekers------> get your CFI. I just have to admit it. Plus you make twice as much than any caravan/pc12 SIC out there

Yeah, deep down in their heart I'm sure every low time pilot knows this, myself included. I'm seeing what I can do to swing a CFI while I wait for these companies to get back to me. The worst thing would be to stop flying and training and stall out for six months trying to make something work.

TripleMailer 03-16-2017 09:46 PM

SIC's starting at $205 per day at Hageland now a days.........36k+ per year for 15on/off... Van drivers PIC base pay at 75k per year...

Javichu 03-16-2017 11:36 PM


Originally Posted by TripleMailer (Post 2322419)
SIC's starting at $205 per day at Hageland now a days.........36k+ per year for 15on/off... Van drivers PIC base pay at 75k per year...

Apart from Alaska, SIC pay sucks everywhere else. Southern pays $12/h for example, what a joke.

36k as CFI is perfectly doable

Radio 03-17-2017 05:24 AM


Originally Posted by TheNotoriousPIC (Post 2321832)
Are all of the spots filled for the next hiring class or do I still have a chance? I sent in my resume via fax two days ago and via email to the Chief Pilot yesterday. I wondering if I should call the company headquarters and get in contact with someone in the hiring department. Like many low timers that right seat in the 208 is the best shot I have.

You will get some news, but it takes time. Remember that hiring is done by the same person who does a lot of other things. CFI is a good deal, especially if you're going to work 15/15. Keep CFI as a backup plan and find an instructing gig that will allow you to work a bit during your days off. Make more money, fly and build hours quicker.

My advice would be to aim for CFI and start working on those lessons plans and knowledge test. CFI certificate involves more preparation work and study than flying.

Keep a good attitude and keep sending resumes everywhere.

TheNotoriousPIC 03-17-2017 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by Radio (Post 2322510)
You will get some news, but it takes time. Remember that hiring is done by the same person who does a lot of other things. CFI is a good deal, especially if you're going to work 15/15. Keep CFI as a backup plan and find an instructing gig that will allow you to work a bit during your days off. Make more money, fly and build hours quicker.

My advice would be to aim for CFI and start working on those lessons plans and knowledge test. CFI certificate involves more preparation work and study than flying.

Keep a good attitude and keep sending resumes everywhere.

Thank you for your advice, that sounds like a good plan of action.

alaskadrifter 03-20-2017 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by TripleMailer (Post 2322419)
SIC's starting at $205 per day at Hageland now a days.........36k+ per year for 15on/off... Van drivers PIC base pay at 75k per year...

Wow! What's sled pay now?

PrettyFlyGuy 03-20-2017 08:09 PM


Originally Posted by alaskadrifter (Post 2325285)
Wow! What's sled pay now?

290/day and I believe $60ish/HR over a 5 HR daily average. And if you have ATP qualifications you also get the 15k bonus. But they have taken away the joy of bush flying in Alaska. No deviating off a direct path from point A to point B. You are expected to fly like an airline pilot in a damn jet without the perks. But on the plus side you get to wear a nice orange reflective vest 2 sizes to big that gets in the way of everything. And have the FAA watching your every move. I just turned down an offer from the DO. He says the new Alaska safety culture is entirely his doing and wants everyone to know that. Turned him down on the spot. Never met someone with a bigger ego.

alaskadrifter 03-20-2017 08:14 PM


Originally Posted by PrettyFlyGuy (Post 2325326)
290/day and I believe $60ish/HR over a 5 HR daily average. And if you have ATP qualifications you also get the 15k bonus. But they have taken away the joy of bush flying in Alaska. No deviating off a direct path from point A to point B. You are expected to fly like an airline pilot in a damn jet without the perks. But on the plus side you get to wear a nice orange reflective vest 2 sizes to big that gets in the way of everything. And have the FAA watching your every move. I just turned down an offer from the DO. He says the new Alaska safety culture is entirely his doing and wants everyone to know that. Turned him down on the spot. Never met someone with a bigger ego.

Well with 2 crashes last year they have to do something. That is pretty darn good pay though!

Javichu 03-20-2017 09:35 PM

How many hours can you fly in those​ 15 days on? Average

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PT6 Flyer 03-21-2017 04:33 AM


Originally Posted by PrettyFlyGuy (Post 2325326)
Never met someone with a bigger ego.

That right there says it all.

C340 03-21-2017 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by PrettyFlyGuy (Post 2325326)
But they have taken away the joy of bush flying in Alaska. No deviating off a direct path from point A to point B. You are expected to fly like an airline pilot in a damn jet without the perks. But on the plus side you get to wear a nice orange reflective vest 2 sizes to big that gets in the way of everything. And have the FAA watching your every move. I just turned down an offer from the DO. He says the new Alaska safety culture is entirely his doing and wants everyone to know that. Turned him down on the spot. Never met someone with a bigger ego.

As a low-time CPL with an interview coming up for an SIC slot, I am not entirely upset that this boost in safety culture is a bad thing, even if the DO has an ego. For people who want to get in, build hours, and move on to regionals after a year or so, I don't think its too much of a hassle to put up with someone like that if it means things will be done in a safer manner. I am a very cautious pilot, but I know Alaska experience will do great things for my skills and resume, so I want to give it a shot. I'll have to deal with BS in any low time (and even high-time) job, and I am not going into this expecting everything to be perfect.

This is just my perspective, and maybe I just haven't had enough experience to see an ego as a huge red flag. Thoughts?

Javichu 03-21-2017 11:37 AM

I agree!!

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PrettyFlyGuy 03-21-2017 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by C340 (Post 2325752)
As a low-time CPL with an interview coming up for an SIC slot, I am not entirely upset that this boost in safety culture is a bad thing, even if the DO has an ego. For people who want to get in, build hours, and move on to regionals after a year or so, I don't think its too much of a hassle to put up with someone like that if it means things will be done in a safer manner. I am a very cautious pilot, but I know Alaska experience will do great things for my skills and resume, so I want to give it a shot. I'll have to deal with BS in any low time (and even high-time) job, and I am not going into this expecting everything to be perfect.

This is just my perspective, and maybe I just haven't had enough experience to see an ego as a huge red flag. Thoughts?

Absolutely its a great option for guys under 500 hours. But if you have the hours go to Grant or somewhere that gives you valuable PIC time and experience. Go fly skydivers or mapping etc. Get experience making your own decisions. That first 1000hrs makes a lasting impression on your style of flying, so if you can get used to making your own calls and not depending on someone in the other seat. Right seat van time is a last resort in my opinion. As far as safety it has nothing to do with Ravn management it is the FAA riding them to change things and a lot to do with younger pilots coming in and making smart PIC decisions and willing to walk away before accepting a flight they don't like. Now I came to Alaska to actually enjoy flying and the lifestyle and not to just build time for a regional and fly a straight line. If that's what you want its a decent way to do it. Hageland for the most part has smaller "bids" and you will build time slower than the other options but if you get the job go for it. Makes for a great story.

PrettyFlyGuy 03-21-2017 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by alaskadrifter (Post 2325329)
Well with 2 crashes last year they have to do something. That is pretty darn good pay though!

Definitely hard to beat. That they did. Tim was a good guy and is missed for sure. And the midair is just a sad situation we all hope to never happen again and hopefully keeps everyone vigilant with their eyes out the window. Now the crashes had nothing to do with management or maintenance from what anyone can see. Just wrong place at the wrong time and no one but the PIC's can change the outcome of future flights. So everything they are doing now is just to look good for the FAA and the POI's out here are basically clueless. Their new plan and I quote "is having stronger seat rail stop pins to prevent the seats from ripping out of the rails in Cessna's when they crash." Oh the brilliance of the FEDs. Blue Skies!

JulietSierra89 03-28-2017 04:20 PM

How did everyone do on their interviews!!??

Javichu 03-28-2017 05:26 PM

It was pretty good, chief pilot was super nice. A few technical questions, a few HR, couple scenario based questions.....and that's it pretty much.

They'll send an email in a few weeks with the results, and next ground school will be in 2-3 months apparently.

tritofly 03-29-2017 04:06 AM

Was it audio only through GoToMeeting or video too?

Javichu 03-29-2017 07:58 PM

just audio!

C340 04-01-2017 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by Javichu (Post 2331442)
It was pretty good, chief pilot was super nice. A few technical questions, a few HR, couple scenario based questions.....and that's it pretty much.

They'll send an email in a few weeks with the results, and next ground school will be in 2-3 months apparently.

Anything in particular that should be studied for in advance of the interview?

Javichu 04-01-2017 11:05 AM

Not really. Basic IFR knowledge and typical personal questions, no big deal

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Radio 04-02-2017 06:58 AM


Originally Posted by C340 (Post 2334300)
Anything in particular that should be studied for in advance of the interview?

When is your interview ?


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