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Old 07-23-2018, 11:25 AM
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Yea with the current E175 fleet at 15, a typical staffing model would required at least 75 captains. With the latest award, we have about 161 captains. Even with 26 E175s projected by year's end, that would require at least 130 captains.
I could be wrong, but i think my last airline staffed around 8:1 or 9:1 on crews. So by my reckoning, those numbers sound about right for expected growth and staying ahead of deliveries. Average line value was also pretty high there too.
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Word on the street is the the company and union are working on an LOA for Direct Entry Captains.
Let's see, I'll take 4.2 min for the jet and 4 commuter hotels per month, and EDV pay rates to start. Also, I don't want anyone to have to call CS after completion of a reserve assignment, positive space DH if first commute missed, no junior manning and no last second schedule reassignments for line-holders. 200% premium solidified in contract.

Anything less and I'm voting no.
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Old 07-23-2018, 01:44 PM
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Let's see, I'll take 4.2 min for the jet and 4 commuter hotels per month, and EDV pay rates to start. Also, I don't want anyone to have to call CS after completion of a reserve assignment, positive space DH if first commute missed, no junior manning and no last second schedule reassignments for line-holders. 200% premium solidified in contract.

Anything less and I'm voting no.
Finally seeing someone put something out there that makes sense, but we can do better.

We are the #1 regional for on time, controllable performance, so lets be paid like it. The pay rates should have a trigger that keep us in the top three, then reset to #1. After the raise to top of industry rates, and it should be applied to the captains also, we will stay there until we drop to #3, when we get beat out by another, making us #4, an automatic increase to again be #1, by the next whole dollar.

And a six year contract for rate renegotiation is total B.S. Never again. The industry is too fluid right now with pay.
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Old 07-23-2018, 03:05 PM
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Finally seeing someone put something out there that makes sense, but we can do better.

We are the #1 regional for on time, controllable performance, so lets be paid like it. The pay rates should have a trigger that keep us in the top three, then reset to #1. After the raise to top of industry rates, and it should be applied to the captains also, we will stay there until we drop to #3, when we get beat out by another, making us #4, an automatic increase to again be #1, by the next whole dollar.

And a six year contract for rate renegotiation is total B.S. Never again. The industry is too fluid right now with pay.
As much as I want the same to happen, the new hire list has been massive for an airline our size since the pay raise and bonus kicked in last year. Over 350 of 800 pilots have been hired in the last year. The company most likely won’t touch our pay until attracting new hires starts to suffer. With SkyWest rates still well below ours and word getting out the NW is very senior left seat wise it isn’t hard to see why we have a bunch of people coming through our doors right now.

I do say before the union gives the company an inch on street CA they need to get jet guys that 4.2. So wrong what happens to those guys as far as credit just because the company can do it that way. However I will gladly take a pay raise lol. If we had endeavor pay right now we would be filling classes up and probably even able to find the most competitive and capable instead of hiring someone with the mins and a pulse, which is the only way I got in the door last year
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Old 07-23-2018, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Fixnem2Flyinem View Post
As much as I want the same to happen, the new hire list has been massive for an airline our size since the pay raise and bonus kicked in last year. Over 350 of 800 pilots have been hired in the last year. The company most likely won’t touch our pay until attracting new hires starts to suffer.
That's fine, they can keep paying extra for the longer training length then.

I am sick and tired of hearing Brad and Gary thank us endlessly for being the #1 regional and lining their pockets with massive bonuses. I don't want the pep talks or thank you's or thumbs up gestures.

The number 1 regional should be compensated with number 1 rates and QOL enhancements, and I'm sorry Gary but you are extremely out of touch with reality when you say we have "industry leading pay."
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Let's see, I'll take 4.2 min for the jet and 4 commuter hotels per month, and EDV pay rates to start. Also, I don't want anyone to have to call CS after completion of a reserve assignment, positive space DH if first commute missed, no junior manning and no last second schedule reassignments for line-holders. 200% premium solidified in contract.

Anything less and I'm voting no.
LOAs don't typically go to a member vote, if you feel strongly about it, you should talk to your reps.
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LOAs don't typically go to a member vote, if you feel strongly about it, you should talk to your reps.
Well, the last one did. Wasn't significant either, just 4.2/bonus and $40/hour for new hires
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How easy would it be for a new hire FO to get based in BOI? Would commuting from BOI to another base be a difficult one? Thanks!
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New Hires or established pilots,



How long between dropping an application or contacting recruiting did it take to get the trip up and have an interview? I am trying to figure out the timing of it all. I will be checking commercial (add-on) within the next month and then proceeding to ME, BUT I need to schedule a routine surgery to take out a plate that was inserted as a result of a bike accident. The surgery two years ago caused a lot of pain when I decided to get back into aviation. It took several months and coordination to get the FAA to clear my medical, so I am assuming I'll have to go through that again. I have a feeling if I let Horizon know that they will want me to get the rating complete, have the surgery, get my medical cleared and then proceed with them? Or would they offer an CJO based on all the above if I were to interview before the surgery and completion of ME?
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How long between dropping an application or contacting recruiting did it take to get the trip up and have an interview? I am trying to figure out the timing of it all. I will be checking commercial (add-on) within the next month and then proceeding to ME, BUT I need to schedule a routine surgery to take out a plate that was inserted as a result of a bike accident. The surgery two years ago caused a lot of pain when I decided to get back into aviation. It took several months and coordination to get the FAA to clear my medical, so I am assuming I'll have to go through that again. I have a feeling if I let Horizon know that they will want me to get the rating complete, have the surgery, get my medical cleared and then proceed with them? Or would they offer an CJO based on all the above if I were to interview before the surgery and completion of ME?
They will want you to finish your ME and get your medical cleared first before they fly you up to SEA and spend all day interviewing you and putting you up in a hotel for potentially 2 nights.

It also cant hurt to ask them directly, they're very friendly.
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