Starchkr

Well, better keep those applications up to date I guess.

oldgb

Well, crap. I was hoping they would keep to their word (have fun with that in the subsequent comments ) and keep it close to the 50%, as promised.

By the way, I am not surprised, at all. Not naive, either. Just foolishly optimistic. As stated earlier, keep the applications up to date and hope the phone rings. Best of luck to all

Sikorsky38

One big problem Horizon is having is that too many upgradeable first officers are bypassing for several reasons. In no particular order: 1) the take-home differential between being relatively senior as a FO compared to a junior Captain on reserve, 2) prevalent abuse by the company to pilots on reserve, 3) a still big question mark as to how management will handle the Paine E175 flying and potential future basing for the E175 & 4) nearly 200 of our pilots, many of which are FOs, sitting in the Pathways pool, with no incentive to risk failing an upgrade to the Q400 which has a bad track record of getting fresh upgrades through this past year. The fact that so many of QX's low-time pilots are young, low experience and flying the E175 with little if any turbo-prop experience, makes their prospect of upgrading into the Q400 highly problematic as they calculate their current position and future moves.

Last month, management put out a teaser that AAG was looking at doing extra flying with our Q400s, but that the feasibility of that potential extra flying would depend entirely on how many FOs decide to upgrade in January and February. Word on the street is that 50 upgradeable FOs are still by-passing for the reasons stated above. Personally, I think the extra flying carrot was just an attempt by management to get FOs off the fence. Management has already stated that the Pathways flow is slowing to a trickle, but I foresee a longer term fix will be needed, such as changing the Pathways program to where they require pilots to successfully upgrade to Captain. Since the union was not involved in setting up the Pathways program, the company is probably free to make any changes they wish to it. I don't know what the individual agreement/contract Pathway participants have signed looks like. Maybe individuals can challenge any changes the company tries to make. Obviously, the program has a major design flaw built into it, from the company's perspective.

Starchkr

Is the just published 16 for January not accurate?

Sikorsky38

The official email came out late today. I think the first January class awards were known earlier and assumptions were made that there would only be two Pathway pilots in each of the two known AS classes. Of a total number of 48 new hires at AS in January, 16 are coming from Horizon. Horizon is asking check airman to voluntarily delay until later this spring before taking their Pathway AS class slots.

Galaxy5

Please tell me nobody is delaying...

snackysmores

Yes, please defer out of the kindness of your hearts so we can continue to let guys and girls with decades less experience get a better seniority number than you thaaaanks

Starchkr

Maybe if they awarded a seniority number.

snackysmores

That would only make sense, and will never happen. AS ALPA would not allow.

oldgb

Maybe they could start at AS, get put on the seniority list, and then stay at QX. If it works for H and Carlos, why not the little people?