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Old 03-16-2019, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Starchkr View Post
I hate to sound like a negative Nancy here but I have serious doubts about the 2 to 3 year projection. The reason? There are lots of senior pilots at Horizon that don’t want to go to Alaska but that group has been bypassed more or less at this point. When you look at the list it goes from about 4.5 years of seniority or so down to less than 1 year of seniority with only a couple hundred signed up. I think a lot more will sign up as they approach the seniority they need to go to Alaska so the current numbers are very misleading.

The other part of the equation is the amount of hiring at Alaska. This is a bit of a wild card, but absent growth, there won’t be much hiring. Retirements won’t help much either. It’s a young pilot group relatively speaking. Growth and higher attrition due to pilots leaving Alaska for other airlines would really be the only factor that can keep the Pathway Program moving at a good pace.

My honest guess(it’s a total guess and I hope I’m wrong on this) is that we will see some movement over the next couple of years. The pathway will look pretty good for awhile maybe even getting some pilots from Horizon to Alaska within 4 years of their hire date but then the late sign ups will start coming in and that number will begin to go more into the 5 to 7 year range or more.

Hopefully some of you can convince me otherwise.
Though none of us have that magic 8 ball, that’s a very realistic outlook on the pathway list. I think anyone hired after 2019 will be at QX 6+ years waiting for a slot. I’m sure most will just jump on other opportunities in the meantime.
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Old 03-16-2019, 12:39 PM
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Thanks for the honest feedback.
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Old 03-25-2019, 06:16 AM
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The April 15th class is 4 pathway out of 8, so 50%.
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Old 03-25-2019, 07:50 AM
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The April 15th class is 4 pathway out of 8, so 50%.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure the goal was 50% for the year, not per class. Didn't they already have one or two that was entirely pathway kids? Admittedly, I don't pay attention as much as many seem to.
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Old 04-11-2019, 09:10 AM
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I'm wondering if you guys guessing at the times above are factoring in time to meet the experience minimums at Alaska? I've got a lot of experience and am flying a 737 in Canada with my green card almost completed. I'll be applying directly with Alaska but am considering Horizon as well. Cheers
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I answered my own question after reading back further in this thread.

After being hired at Alaska from Horizon do you start at year one?
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Old 04-11-2019, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by R D K View Post
I answered my own question after reading back further in this thread.

After being hired at Alaska from Horizon do you start at year one?
Yes, seniority and longevity reset.
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Old 04-11-2019, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by R D K View Post
I answered my own question after reading back further in this thread.

After being hired at Alaska from Horizon do you start at year one?
Yep. We're the same airline until it comes to pay and benefits. Then we dont deserve the same benefits.
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Originally Posted by ASpilot2be View Post
Yep. We're the same airline until it comes to pay and benefits. Then we dont deserve the same benefits.
We're Alaska when we stand out and do something great, but if we mess up we're a 3rd party CPA contractor that's definitely not affiliated with AS.

We saw a short clip in AQP once of ATC preventing a horizon plane from having a runway incursion. The graphic depiction of the q400 had the Eskimo censored off the tail haha.
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Originally Posted by snackysmores View Post
We're Alaska when we stand out and do something great, but if we mess up we're a 3rd party CPA contractor that's definitely not affiliated with AS.

We saw a short clip in AQP once of ATC preventing a horizon plane from having a runway incursion. The graphic depiction of the q400 had the Eskimo censored off the tail haha.
Hahahaha. Sounds about right.
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