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Old 03-23-2023 | 07:32 AM
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Yeah as soon as they opened it that's where everyone got sent. Medford used to be that way in the Q.

But always be ready to end up somewhere else.
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Old 03-23-2023 | 01:47 PM
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For anyone in the pipeline thinking about coming here, DON’T.
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Old 03-23-2023 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Lileskimo
For anyone in the pipeline thinking about coming here, DON’T.
Care to explain why?
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Old 03-24-2023 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Lileskimo
For anyone in the pipeline thinking about coming here, DON’T.
I can think of a few reasons why but yea let’s hear what you got on it. Outside of the current pace on getting hours, can’t be much different for us than any other place. I can say if someone plans to come here and rack up a 1000 hours in a year, probably not gonna happen. But as for a place with top notch training and bases for PNW locals, not gonna find anything better.
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Old 03-26-2023 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by bcagle25
Care to explain why?
you’ll be on reserve at ANC for at least a year.

The company has 8 new E175s arriving this year but it sounds like they won’t have the captains to operate them. As soon as captains upgrade 30% go to united, 30% go to delta, 30% use pathways to go to Alaska and the remaining 10% either stay at horizon or go elsewhere.

spirit, allegiant, frontier, JetBlue all are hiring 1500 hour flight instructors with an unrestricted ATP. They have much better work rules and better QOL that’s comparable to alaska mainlines contract. There’s no reason for any flight instructor to go to a regional airline right now when alaskas contract is now industry standard for entry level ATPs.
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Old 03-26-2023 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Clipper88
you’ll be on reserve at ANC for at least a year.

The company has 8 new E175s arriving this year but it sounds like they won’t have the captains to operate them. As soon as captains upgrade 30% go to united, 30% go to delta, 30% use pathways to go to Alaska and the remaining 10% either stay at horizon or go elsewhere.

spirit, allegiant, frontier, JetBlue all are hiring 1500 hour flight instructors with an unrestricted ATP. They have much better work rules and better QOL that’s comparable to alaska mainlines contract. There’s no reason for any flight instructor to go to a regional airline right now when alaskas contract is now industry standard for entry level ATPs.
So if you iive near ANC and want to live in base it's a good option. If you are looking to join Horizon and want a base out of ANC or don't want to commute to ANC it's going to be a long road to get there.

But for someone that lives in ANC and wants to go to Horizon and potentially use the pathways program to get to Alaska it could be a good route?

Horizon, soon to be short on captains, currently bottlenecked with FO's, lots of pilots transition to Alaska and/or other majors when able?
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Old 03-27-2023 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by bcagle25
So if you iive near ANC and want to live in base it's a good option. If you are looking to join Horizon and want a base out of ANC or don't want to commute to ANC it's going to be a long road to get there.

But for someone that lives in ANC and wants to go to Horizon and potentially use the pathways program to get to Alaska it could be a good route?

Horizon, soon to be short on captains, currently bottlenecked with FO's, lots of pilots transition to Alaska and/or other majors when able?
yes exactly, horizon only makes sense if you’re from Alaska or the PNW to a lesser extent and are unable to relocate and don’t want to commute.
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Old 03-28-2023 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by bcagle25
So if you iive near ANC and want to live in base it's a good option. If you are looking to join Horizon and want a base out of ANC or don't want to commute to ANC it's going to be a long road to get there.

But for someone that lives in ANC and wants to go to Horizon and potentially use the pathways program to get to Alaska it could be a good route?

Horizon, soon to be short on captains, currently bottlenecked with FO's, lots of pilots transition to Alaska and/or other majors when able?

He’s right on all the points except the ANC for a year thing. That’s old news. Like I said in a previous post, I’m still going through OE and just bid out of ANC and never set foot there. Same with a few in the class below me. Medford just opened up and for us lower 48ers, that’s way better. When it comes to the bottleneck though, I believe that’s pretty spot on. They’re trying to hire Prior Qualifying Time FOs now and with a 50k bonus might help some jump ship. Doesn’t mean we’ll be able to keep them though.
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Old 03-28-2023 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by mbhelicopter
He’s right on all the points except the ANC for a year thing. That’s old news. Like I said in a previous post, I’m still going through OE and just bid out of ANC and never set foot there. Same with a few in the class below me. Medford just opened up and for us lower 48ers, that’s way better. When it comes to the bottleneck though, I believe that’s pretty spot on. They’re trying to hire Prior Qualifying Time FOs now and with a 50k bonus might help some jump ship. Doesn’t mean we’ll be able to keep them though.
So what is causing the FO bottleneck? Don't FO's need to upgrade to captain and log 1000 PIC before they can move up to Alaska?
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Old 03-28-2023 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 907Pilot
So what is causing the FO bottleneck? Don't FO's need to upgrade to captain and log 1000 PIC before they can move up to Alaska?
Couple of things. They did cut half the fleet when getting rid of the Q400, so that has cut a lot of flying just with the simple math of leas airplanes. So FOs aren’t getting the flight time needed to upgrade to captain quickly. Secondly and probably more importantly for the longer term, with the majors snagging so many young captains, we have a shortage of captains. Without the captains it doesn’t really matter how many planes, routes or FOs you have. The future looks good though. New planes coming in and with the raises, it should keep a lot of local pilots around but we’ll see.
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