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Old 11-11-2017, 09:17 AM
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Alaksa hasn’t exercised those Options...All of OO’s aircraft are purchased buy them. There are a few aircraft in question that were assembled in a configuration for another airline but then bought by OO. This is were the Alaska 50 shades of gray come in.. im sure they will release the paperwork but what will they be able to do about it is the real question...
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Old 11-11-2017, 10:15 AM
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Alaksa hasn’t exercised those Options...All of OO’s aircraft are purchased buy them.
Good point.
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Old 11-11-2017, 01:21 PM
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They will pull a Hilary and say, 'what documents, there are no documents?' Then they will say that those aircraft were never put into revenue service by an AAG owned or controlled airline and so are not even covered.
The problem is that the contract does not specify “owned or controlled by AAG”. It simply says placed into revenue service, doesn’t matter by who. That’s probably going to be the next court battle.
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Old 11-11-2017, 02:38 PM
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The problem is that the contract does not specify “owned or controlled by AAG”. It simply says placed into revenue service, doesn’t matter by who. That’s probably going to be the next court battle.
This is where the lawyers get tricky. Alaska/Horizon never owned these planes. They may have ordered them, but they never took delivery of them.
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Old 11-11-2017, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Jonneaux View Post
This is where the lawyers get tricky. Alaska/Horizon never owned these planes. They may have ordered them, but they never took delivery of them.
Not even on paper? What constitutes a delivery? Our pilots are flying them out of the hanger in Brazil...
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Old 11-11-2017, 05:18 PM
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Not even on paper? What constitutes a delivery? Our pilots are flying them out of the hanger in Brazil...
SkyWest is both buying and them and flying them out of the hangar in Brazil.
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Old 11-11-2017, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by pete2800 View Post
Nope. Where in the Alaska pilot contract determines who HR can or cannot hire?

It's as simple as an LOA at QX.
Exactly. They dont need permision from either of the unions on who gets hired at Alaska mainline. There would be an LOA added to the QX contract, just so there was a process on how and when someone could "flow" up to AS. Nothing would need to be done on the AS contract for this to happen.
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Old 11-12-2017, 07:30 AM
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Exactly. They dont need permision from either of the unions on who gets hired at Alaska mainline. There would be an LOA added to the QX contract, just so there was a process on how and when someone could "flow" up...
AS management wouldn’t need permission from the AS pilot’s union as long as the flow program did not negatively affect any AS pilot, but they would surely need an agreement from the QX union if they wanted some form of cherry picking ability of QX Pilots for their flow program. That is what will prevent any future flow program from hurting any QX pilot. I’m using common sense in my rational here, but I’m pretty sure that is how both unions will see it.
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Old 11-13-2017, 01:07 PM
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Guessing their RTP isn't going anywhere. Have emailed the recruiter twice over the past month asking for an update, she won't even respond.
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Originally Posted by Taco280AI View Post
Guessing their RTP isn't going anywhere. Have emailed the recruiter twice over the past month asking for an update, she won't even respond.
It’s not going anywhere. It’s never been mentioned once.
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