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Old 10-16-2017 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Rascal
The CBA was just around the corner when I got hired 2 years ago. I would not hold my breath on CBA coming anytime soon and even then the reserve rules might not improve.
Respectfully I think you guys look at everything as being static.
I get that you can only plan for "knowns" but a contract will be here and it will increase our QOL. That was the point of a union vote. From some of the leaks and talking to a few union people our reserve rules will be much improved. This guy will also be living in base. Many of the jr guys in MCO have lines because the senior guys bid reserve to stay home.
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Old 10-16-2017 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Rascal
The CBA was just around the corner when I got hired 2 years ago. I would not hold my breath on CBA coming anytime soon and even then the reserve rules might not improve.


Anyone who told you that the CBA was “just around the corner” 2 years ago has no experience with airline negotiations.
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Old 10-16-2017 | 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Rascal
The CBA was just around the corner when I got hired 2 years ago. I would not hold my breath on CBA coming anytime soon and even then the reserve rules might not improve.
The CBA had just begun to be negotiated 2 yrs ago. It was far from right around the corner.
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Old 10-16-2017 | 08:32 AM
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Thanks for all the info. Helps a lot.

Are there ways to improve your schedule if your commuting? Like starting with a DH to MCO and you just skip the DH. Or trip swaps etc.?

Maybe the new terminal will help with MCO growth.

I dont know if its just me but I get the feeling the LCC and the like are gonna get a wakeup call when the pilot squeeze hits them. It's bound to domino from what the regionals are feeling now. Maybe that'll be more motivation to finish a CBA.
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Old 10-16-2017 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by rvr1800
Our NC won’t be sending anything to the MEC that doesn’t have vast improvements to reserve rules.
In 2020.

Filler.
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Old 10-16-2017 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Ground Effect
Thanks for all the info. Helps a lot.

Are there ways to improve your schedule if your commuting? Like starting with a DH to MCO and you just skip the DH. Or trip swaps etc.?

Maybe the new terminal will help with MCO growth.

I dont know if its just me but I get the feeling the LCC and the like are gonna get a wakeup call when the pilot squeeze hits them. It's bound to domino from what the regionals are feeling now. Maybe that'll be more motivation to finish a CBA.
What will most likely happen is we will have to slow or stop growth because there are not enough pilots, and those that are qualified will go to companies who pay much better, have higher paying widebody aircraft and metric tons of retirements.

Then our already slowing growth will be non-existent.
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Old 10-16-2017 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
What will most likely happen is we will have to slow or stop growth because there are not enough pilots, and those that are qualified will go to companies who pay much better, have higher paying widebody aircraft and metric tons of retirements.

Then our already slowing growth will be non-existent.
Is it gloomy weather where you are today bluedriver
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Old 10-16-2017 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by pilotpayne
Is it gloomy weather where you are today bluedriver
I know you're just giving me crap but when the market tightens for pilots I just do not see how we compete. What do we offer that a guy can't get from at least the big 3 much better?
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Old 10-16-2017 | 11:03 AM
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You're assuming that pilots looking for a job qualify for the big 3. I don't have a college degree, and likely will never be competitive for a job there. So while I'm looking for better employment (from where I'm working now), and looking to get back into 121, places like JetBlue, Spirit, Allegiant, and others appeal to me because, realistically, I could be somewhat competitive to get a job there. So while most pilots probably have a bachelors or higher degree, some of us don't. And we have other expectations and aspirations.
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Old 10-16-2017 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by GraceMonth
You're assuming that pilots looking for a job qualify for the big 3. I don't have a college degree, and likely will never be competitive for a job there. So while I'm looking for better employment (from where I'm working now), and looking to get back into 121, places like JetBlue, Spirit, Allegiant, and others appeal to me because, realistically, I could be somewhat competitive to get a job there. So while most pilots probably have a bachelors or higher degree, some of us don't. And we have other expectations and aspirations.

My guess is your education level will become more the norm than the exception for new hires in this industry at every airline very soon in the future.
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