Originally Posted by Southerner

I guess the days of expecting policies to actually mean something are over...

You can't jumpseat on another airline in jeans, and get defensive when someone gives you crap for breaking a policy.

Don't apply. We don't want you.


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Originally Posted by slimothy

We have a policy against riding in back in jeans? When I rode up front it was at the CA’s invite because he didn’t want to leave me behind.



Apply if you want, but prospects are better elsewhere. Just don’t tell Southerner that.

Originally Posted by Southerner

If jumpseating, you have to be business casual. I'm assuming since he's OAL that he was jumpseating. If not, (ZED) my apologies.


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Originally Posted by Std Deviation

In three years commuting out of DFW I’ve never seen anyone commute out of uniform in the cockpit. In fact, I actually saw an AA captain refuse an out of uniform off line pilot from flying in the cockpit. I’m upfront about 70% of the time.

But yes, I take the coat off at DFW and violate the uniform policy because who cares when out of base. Or should I drag both the blazer and the wool coat on a trip that goes through Detroit and San Juan in the winter? There are times when it’s easier to just look like a pilot. I can practice fine fashion on my days off (unlikely for me because we all just wear boots and Wrangers here in TX but if looking like a GQ model in all male Vegas review is someone’s thing...that’s their prerogative. And of course if you fancy a bench press now and then you need a full 2 sizes larger than your blazer to get your shoulders in without ripping out the seams)

Originally Posted by slimothy

He said he was denied a “ride in the back.” While technically “jumpseating” the business casual rule, as I understand it, is only for flight deck access.

Originally Posted by slimothy

He said he was denied a “ride in the back.” While technically “jumpseating” the business casual rule, as I understand it, is only for flight deck access.

Originally Posted by Southerner

Don't put a captain in the position of having to enforce a policy like that. If you do, and he does, it isn't the captain who was in the wrong.

BTW--- it's funny to me that so many of you idolize Delta, but sure don't seem to fit their culture when you talk about stuff like this. I dare you to show up to a Delta flight in jeans and expect to get a cabin seat while jumpseating. That would not be tolerated over there by most any captain.


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Originally Posted by BeatNavy

I know you used Delta as your example here, but at my last airline I had a UAL 747 captain show up to our jumpseat in jeans, tennis shoes, and a hawaiian shirt. Our captain didn't care and it was a non-issue. I would never do it and I think it's wrong, and IAW our FOM probably wouldn't allow it on my flight deck at JB if I were a CA. but it's not just JetBlue deviants who think its ok.

Originally Posted by Southerner

Don't put a captain in the position of having to enforce a policy like that. If you do, and he does, it isn't the captain who was in the wrong.

BTW--- it's funny to me that so many of you idolize Delta, but sure don't seem to fit their culture when you talk about stuff like this. I dare you to show up to a Delta flight in jeans and expect to get a cabin seat while jumpseating. That would not be tolerated over there by most any captain.


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