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Old 12-28-2017 | 11:26 AM
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And pay, at least for the first year or two. Hopefully you guys get that fixed very soon! You guys and gals deserve it.

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No one has said regionals are better than B6. That's a strawman.

There ARE regionals which have much better hotels and work rules than B6, which is shameful (for us, not for them).
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Old 12-28-2017 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by HighFlight
And pay, at least for the first year or two. Hopefully you guys get that fixed very soon! You guys and gals deserve it.
Our first year pay is offensive, just like Hawaiian's is. Second year pay may be trailing the big 3, but I don't see any regionals that can beat it unless you were top of the Captain pay scale before they left.
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Old 12-28-2017 | 04:21 PM
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Que the Blueberry Juiceboxes Southerner, Hyperboy, F16 and a few others to tell you that you don't know what you're talking about....



Contracts almost done rats, keep churning that butter!


Even after ALL the explanations that we have given for our positions, your STILL can't comprehend them. It's pretty sad, really.

Here ya go buddy. I hope this helps...

https://www.sylvanlearning.com/readi...-comprehension




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Old 12-28-2017 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Cloud5urfer
Our first year pay is offensive, just like Hawaiian's is. Second year pay may be trailing the big 3, but I don't see any regionals that can beat it unless you were top of the Captain pay scale before they left.
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2nd year guys at endeavor can hold CA and are making more than our 2nd year guys on the E190. So, yeah. Our 2nd year pay is offensive as well. As is every year of our pay. The fact that we can even be compared to a regional is offensive. And the fact that they can win in ANY way against a major airline is insulting.
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Old 12-28-2017 | 04:37 PM
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Of the people leaving, anyone leaving with 5 (or more) years longevity?

I think with the last ALPA email they'll be gone.
What did the ALPA email say? Negotiation update?
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Old 12-28-2017 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Of the people leaving, anyone leaving with 5 (or more) years longevity?
I left at 7 years and left seat 190. What is sad (for JetBlue) is that on 2nd year FO pay at FedEx I will be making more than I was as a 7 year E190 CA...with everything else in addition to hourly rate being better as well.
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Old 12-28-2017 | 06:06 PM
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Cargo scares me because of how fast AI is coming to town. Single pilot IS coming and it’s coming to cargo carriers first.
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Old 12-28-2017 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Xtreme87
Cargo scares me because of how fast AI is coming to town. Single pilot IS coming and it’s coming to cargo carriers first.
Is it coming? Yes. Soon? No.
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Old 12-29-2017 | 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by HighFlight
And pay, at least for the first year or two. Hopefully you guys get that fixed very soon! You guys and gals deserve it.
which Regional has better pay, better hotels and work rules than B6, please please tell me so I can apply there.
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Old 12-29-2017 | 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy
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2nd year guys at endeavor can hold CA and are making more than our 2nd year guys on the E190. So, yeah. Our 2nd year pay is offensive as well. As is every year of our pay. The fact that we can even be compared to a regional is offensive. And the fact that they can win in ANY way against a major airline is insulting.
you're comparing CA to FO pay but used the magic word "Can". Right now 9E is desperate for CA and yes, right now, demographics make that you upgrade within 2 years, but that's not in the contract, no guarantee how long that will last. At some point in the near future they'll have enough CAs to slow the upgrade.
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