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Old 03-28-2018, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Burton78 View Post
SWA does have AQP.


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AQP for recurrent, not for initial. They are still putting the program together for initial. At least, that’s what they told us yesterday during Indoc, so this info may have changed in the last 36 hours.
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Old 03-28-2018, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by slimothy View Post
AQP for recurrent, not for initial. They are still putting the program together for initial. At least, that’s what they told us yesterday during Indoc, so this info may have changed in the last 36 hours.
I thought that was the case talking with a few AWAC guys that went there, most likely left over from when you bought your own type. They all said it was great training anyway.
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Old 03-28-2018, 08:25 PM
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Do you guys think that a new hire today would be better off at Spirit or jetblue ?

Pay rates are not that far apart. Although some items are notably better at Spirit with the new contract, i.e. 10-15% DC to 401K, scheduling etc.. But whenever JetBlue gets their new contract, is it not likely be better than the new spirit contract?

Any other negatives about B6 that are not obvious on the surface when comparing them to spirit and other low cost carriers?
jetBlue is certainly a more respected carrier by the public than Spirit and Frontier.

In relation to basing, how long before a new hire could expect to hold FLL or MCO, and which aircraft would get a new-hire to those bases the quickest?
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Old 03-29-2018, 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
Do you guys think that a new hire today would be better off at Spirit or jetblue ?

Pay rates are not that far apart. Although some items are notably better at Spirit with the new contract, i.e. 10-15% DC to 401K, scheduling etc.. But whenever JetBlue gets their new contract, is it not likely be better than the new spirit contract?

Any other negatives about B6 that are not obvious on the surface when comparing them to spirit and other low cost carriers?
jetBlue is certainly a more respected carrier by the public than Spirit and Frontier.

In relation to basing, how long before a new hire could expect to hold FLL or MCO, and which aircraft would get a new-hire to those bases the quickest?

FLL is possibly within a year on the bus I believe.. MCO is right around 2 on the 190 and at least 4 or more on the bus.

If Spirit still plans a lot of growth I would go there. B6 will be in negotiations for a lot longer. Until we have a contract, commuting to reserve can be miserable and first year pay here is demeaning at best.
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Old 03-29-2018, 01:28 AM
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Well it’s not 10k hrs and two type ratings... I can tell you that much.

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Old 04-13-2018, 08:46 AM
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Crazy. I’ve been trying to get on with Jetblue for 2 years and havent heard a word. 3,000+TT, 1400+ 121, ERJ170/190 typed and nothing
7300 TT, Airbus typed with 3000 hrs SIC, Boeing typed 1000 hrs, 5 LOR...international experience clean records and nothing as well.
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Old 04-13-2018, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Papirry View Post
7300 TT, Airbus typed with 3000 hrs SIC, Boeing typed 1000 hrs, 5 LOR...international experience clean records and nothing as well.
I don’t think you’re in the “sweet spot.” You likely know your worth. We like to hire those who don’t know their worth (code word for inexperienced) and are happy settling for less, cleaning airplanes for free, and celebrating culture instead of being a professional airline pilot. It’s no secret that our applicant numbers have plummeted, and I know firsthand we are hiring many who have very little experience compared to you. Good luck if this is what you want, but honestly you are better off elsewhere based on the current course this rudderless ship is drifting.
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Old 04-13-2018, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Papirry View Post
7300 TT, Airbus typed with 3000 hrs SIC, Boeing typed 1000 hrs, 5 LOR...international experience clean records and nothing as well.
Over qualified Pap.
The real airlines are also hiring.
Good luck sir.
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Yeah you need a pulse and no experience these days that’s your only hope. You’re better off going to work for starbucks
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Yeah you need a pulse and no experience these days that’s your only hope. You’re better off going to work for starbucks
Are you a Captain here? I’m going to guess that you’re not. How would you know what the experience level of new hires is? I fly with a lot of guys hired in the last year or two. Not one of them had any issues flying the plane. Based on talking to them about their past, lack of experience was not something I’ve noted either. Many have more experience in this industry than I do.
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