AIP.
05-17-2018, 07:29 AM
#21
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Originally Posted by cmesoar
Oh, and window or aisle seat for deadheads?? I really hope we did not give up something for that.
Notice there's no language prohibiting any ancillary duties not related to operating an aircraft. They would have bragged about it otherwise....
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05-17-2018, 07:30 AM
#22
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Originally Posted by AYLflyer
These are bulletpoint with a whole lot of missing language. Love how the people on this forum demand information just a few days ago, then when they get it they then interpret it how they see fit before seeing the full contract.
I'm not blown away by the bullet points, but I'm not totally disappointed either. Again, I'll wait until the full language is out to decide whether it's worth a Yes or No vote.
I'm not blown away by the bullet points, but I'm not totally disappointed either. Again, I'll wait until the full language is out to decide whether it's worth a Yes or No vote.
05-17-2018, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by cmesoar
You guys on here are truely entertaining! LOL. They have only released bullet points! Cost neutral? How can you determine that with bullet points? I am just glad I can make my own decision based on the road shows and the full language. I truely hope everyone does that. It most certainly will not be based on what anyone says on a forum! LOL, thanks for the entertainment tho, it’s nice!
I doubt putting lipstick on a pig will make her the prom queen.
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05-17-2018, 07:36 AM
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I feel for all you “No” voters. Like I said yesterday, money talks when it comes to pilots. It’ll pass EZ.
More days off for RSV, industry standard vacation, which means huge CA bid, 16% contribution to 401K, those alone with the pay rates is an automatic “yes”.
We have scope, and merger protection.
If you aren’t happy, then getting your apps out should be your priority! Good luck with that!
More days off for RSV, industry standard vacation, which means huge CA bid, 16% contribution to 401K, those alone with the pay rates is an automatic “yes”.
We have scope, and merger protection.
If you aren’t happy, then getting your apps out should be your priority! Good luck with that!
05-17-2018, 07:42 AM
#25
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No need to read the language. This is the first offering to the pilot group. Who ever accepts the first offer in a negotiation? It’s my opinion that the NC and MEC have done their job to the best of their abilities. Now it’s our obligation as a pilot group to vote this down. There is more to get from this management and it will come quickly. The question is are we capable enough as a group to do what’s necessary to get what we deserve????
05-17-2018, 07:47 AM
#26
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Originally Posted by zulu99
No need to read the language. This is the first offering to the pilot group. Who ever accepts the first offer in a negotiation? It’s my opinion that the NC and MEC have done their job to the best of their abilities. Now it’s our obligation as a pilot group to vote this down. There is more to get from this management and it will come quickly. The question is are we capable enough as a group to do what’s necessary to get what we deserve????
The NC/MEC thinks this is exactly what we deserve.
05-17-2018, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by seekingblue
couldn't disagree more. The MEC voted unanimously to approve this AIP. If they didn't like it, they should have sent it back.
The NC/MEC thinks this is exactly what we deserve.
The NC/MEC thinks this is exactly what we deserve.
05-17-2018, 07:53 AM
#28
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Originally Posted by zulu99
I disagree. The statement is 1000x stronger if it comes from the group and not “led” by union leadership.
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