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03-11-2019 | 05:27 PM
#241
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Which position do you have that you get "darn good pay" for not ever having to work?
Personally, I get below average pay (and well below average profit sharing) to show up more days per month, work long and tiring days, then stay at oftentimes unacceptable hotels where I try to make up for frequent circadian flips, all while responsible for familiarizing myself with frequent SOP changes and being on the top of my game 100% of the time in case god forbid there is an emergency that threatens the lives of everyone on board and people on the ground.
Clearly we don't do the same job.
"Just happy to be here" and "I can't believe I get paid for this" are two of the biggest enemies of advancing the pilot career. Talk about "immature."
Personally, I get below average pay (and well below average profit sharing) to show up more days per month, work long and tiring days, then stay at oftentimes unacceptable hotels where I try to make up for frequent circadian flips, all while responsible for familiarizing myself with frequent SOP changes and being on the top of my game 100% of the time in case god forbid there is an emergency that threatens the lives of everyone on board and people on the ground.
Clearly we don't do the same job.
"Just happy to be here" and "I can't believe I get paid for this" are two of the biggest enemies of advancing the pilot career. Talk about "immature."
Gripe about the profit sharing all you want. I agree. Pay is subjective, I say we are average, rates are just a few dollars below the big 3 for aircraft type. Southwest is more but those guys are working their butts off, guys here that hustle can do the same. Alaska is the same and everyone else is below. The rest of your post is just BS that does us more harm than good as a group. I mean you actually just used knowing SOP’s as a complaint.
Please keep to legit gripes and problems and save the teenage drama for yourself.
03-11-2019 | 06:23 PM
#242
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I cannot speak for how you've been treated at JB, only you can do that. But I've been treated great thus far. Either the company chooses to treat each of us differently, or some are able to find the half-full mark on the glass and not dwell on the negative.
There is a metric a$$-ton of difference between having self worth and whining. Just because some are happy with their station in life does not equate to them being less awesome than you. It may not be in your DNA, but I have found that people who are positive and look for the good in their daily lives find it and excel.
Sadly, those who are miserable and like to talk about it usually try to blame their circumstances on others or situations around them. Often an exercise in futility.
And I'm all about making things better at JB. But APC is not the way to accomplish that goal.
There is a metric a$$-ton of difference between having self worth and whining. Just because some are happy with their station in life does not equate to them being less awesome than you. It may not be in your DNA, but I have found that people who are positive and look for the good in their daily lives find it and excel.
Sadly, those who are miserable and like to talk about it usually try to blame their circumstances on others or situations around them. Often an exercise in futility.
And I'm all about making things better at JB. But APC is not the way to accomplish that goal.
03-11-2019 | 06:25 PM
#243
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Wow the drama, amazingly you just called others immature and yet your rant comes across like it was written by a 15 year old girl.
Gripe about the profit sharing all you want. I agree. Pay is subjective, I say we are average, rates are just a few dollars below the big 3 for aircraft type. Southwest is more but those guys are working their butts off, guys here that hustle can do the same. Alaska is the same and everyone else is below. The rest of your post is just BS that does us more harm than good as a group. I mean you actually just used knowing SOP’s as a complaint.
Please keep to legit gripes and problems and save the teenage drama for yourself.
Gripe about the profit sharing all you want. I agree. Pay is subjective, I say we are average, rates are just a few dollars below the big 3 for aircraft type. Southwest is more but those guys are working their butts off, guys here that hustle can do the same. Alaska is the same and everyone else is below. The rest of your post is just BS that does us more harm than good as a group. I mean you actually just used knowing SOP’s as a complaint.
Please keep to legit gripes and problems and save the teenage drama for yourself.
03-11-2019 | 06:54 PM
#244
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I understand. Sadly, the regular negative posters here have been at it for over two years. I am sure it detracts from the enjoyment of anyone wishing to come to work for JB, and I think that is pretty lame.
Fortunately, the negativity that I see here on APC does NOT extend into the cockpit 99% of the time. Most people with whom I have flown and talked love working here. Was recently on the JS with a 12-year CA and a 1+ year FO. Both were very glad to be here, and neither had apps out anywhere else. Hopefully anyone who is trying to come here see this self-maligning negativity for what it is, a handful of people who are just not able to find happiness in their lives.
Is jetBlue perfect? No, far from it. Is our contract great? Nope. Needs some work, and hopefully we will be seeing some LOAs soon. But overall, I am very satisfied with having a job where I get pretty darn good pay for not ever having to work. #winning!!
Fortunately, the negativity that I see here on APC does NOT extend into the cockpit 99% of the time. Most people with whom I have flown and talked love working here. Was recently on the JS with a 12-year CA and a 1+ year FO. Both were very glad to be here, and neither had apps out anywhere else. Hopefully anyone who is trying to come here see this self-maligning negativity for what it is, a handful of people who are just not able to find happiness in their lives.
Is jetBlue perfect? No, far from it. Is our contract great? Nope. Needs some work, and hopefully we will be seeing some LOAs soon. But overall, I am very satisfied with having a job where I get pretty darn good pay for not ever having to work. #winning!!
03-11-2019 | 06:58 PM
#245
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It’s sad that the moral is so low because every single work group knows it should be so much better.
03-11-2019 | 07:18 PM
#246
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03-11-2019 | 07:20 PM
#247
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03-11-2019 | 07:25 PM
#248
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This is not what I see on the line at all. The employee morale here is even lower than I had seen at my previous regional. My last trip I had all 4 senior FA considering moving on. My 15 year Captain was encouraging me to leave (I am working hard on it). Most people that I come in contact with think that we are a rudderless ship.
The FAs are understandably tired, they work much harder and longer than we do, and they don’t yet have a contract to protect them. Apples and oranges.
03-11-2019 | 07:43 PM
#249
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