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Old 03-10-2019, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by 360KIAS View Post
It's good to know there are people who read and post here who actually have the sense of a goose or higher (much higher, judging by your post).

JB is far from the Mesa of the majors, in spite of what 8 or 9 regular posters try to spout. I would think that with as unhappy as some are to "work" here, they would have moved on to a legacy by now.
Many of us are trying to move on but it's easier said than done. With all the CPP programs out there, it's only getting harder to get the call from the Legacies.
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Old 03-10-2019, 08:07 AM
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Many of us are trying to move on but it's easier said than done. With all the CPP programs out there, it's only getting harder to get the call from the Legacies.
It's easier for people like 360KIAS to deflect and rationalize why we aren't treated as well as we should be by telling those who actually have some self-worth "just go to a legacy if you want to be paid well and treated like a professional."

Yeah, it's that easy.

Why not try to make things better here instead? Nope, settling for mediocrity is the JB way!
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Old 03-10-2019, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by disenchantMINT View Post
It's easier for people like 360KIAS to deflect and rationalize why we aren't treated as well as we should be by telling those who actually have some self-worth "just go to a legacy if you want to be paid well and treated like a professional."

Yeah, it's that easy.

Why not try to make things better here instead? Nope, settling for mediocrity is the JB way!
I cannot speak for how you've been treated at JB, only you can do that. But I've been treated great thus far. Either the company chooses to treat each of us differently, or some are able to find the half-full mark on the glass and not dwell on the negative.

There is a metric a$$-ton of difference between having self worth and whining. Just because some are happy with their station in life does not equate to them being less awesome than you. It may not be in your DNA, but I have found that people who are positive and look for the good in their daily lives find it and excel.

Sadly, those who are miserable and like to talk about it usually try to blame their circumstances on others or situations around them. Often an exercise in futility.

And I'm all about making things better at JB. But APC is not the way to accomplish that goal.
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Old 03-10-2019, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 360KIAS View Post
I cannot speak for how you've been treated at JB, only you can do that. But I've been treated great thus far. Either the company chooses to treat each of us differently, or some are able to find the half-full mark on the glass and not dwell on the negative.

There is a metric a$$-ton of difference between having self worth and whining. Just because some are happy with their station in life does not equate to them being less awesome than you. It may not be in your DNA, but I have found that people who are positive and look for the good in their daily lives find it and excel.

Sadly, those who are miserable and like to talk about it usually try to blame their circumstances on others or situations around them. Often an exercise in futility.

And I'm all about making things better at JB. But APC is not the way to accomplish that goal.
If you’ve been treated great than you are in management or the school house. You are not a pilot here. It is miserable and getting to be an embarrassment watching the operation melt down every day
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Old 03-10-2019, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 360KIAS View Post
It's good to know there are people who read and post here who actually have the sense of a goose or higher (much higher, judging by your post).

JB is far from the Mesa of the majors, in spite of what 8 or 9 regular posters try to spout. I would think that with as unhappy as some are to "work" here, they would have moved on to a legacy by now.
Ok, which of the "majors" would you say are below JB?

Which if the "majors" would you rank above JB?
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Old 03-11-2019, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by 360KIAS View Post
I cannot speak for how you've been treated at JB, only you can do that. But I've been treated great thus far. Either the company chooses to treat each of us differently, or some are able to find the half-full mark on the glass and not dwell on the negative.

There is a metric a$$-ton of difference between having self worth and whining. Just because some are happy with their station in life does not equate to them being less awesome than you. It may not be in your DNA, but I have found that people who are positive and look for the good in their daily lives find it and excel.

Sadly, those who are miserable and like to talk about it usually try to blame their circumstances on others or situations around them. Often an exercise in futility.

And I'm all about making things better at JB. But APC is not the way to accomplish that goal.
disenchantMINT is just an angry guy. If anyone seems happy or neutral, he attacks. Its a sign of immaturity.
B6 is its own worst enemy-hopefully we're bought or the BOD is replaced.
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Old 03-11-2019, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot View Post
disenchantMINT is just an angry guy. If anyone seems happy or neutral, he attacks. Its a sign of immaturity.
B6 is its own worst enemy-hopefully we're bought or the BOD is replaced.
I understand. Sadly, the regular negative posters here have been at it for over two years. I am sure it detracts from the enjoyment of anyone wishing to come to work for JB, and I think that is pretty lame.

Fortunately, the negativity that I see here on APC does NOT extend into the cockpit 99% of the time. Most people with whom I have flown and talked love working here. Was recently on the JS with a 12-year CA and a 1+ year FO. Both were very glad to be here, and neither had apps out anywhere else. Hopefully anyone who is trying to come here see this self-maligning negativity for what it is, a handful of people who are just not able to find happiness in their lives.

Is jetBlue perfect? No, far from it. Is our contract great? Nope. Needs some work, and hopefully we will be seeing some LOAs soon. But overall, I am very satisfied with having a job where I get pretty darn good pay for not ever having to work. #winning!!
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Old 03-11-2019, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by 360KIAS View Post
I understand. Sadly, the regular negative posters here have been at it for over two years. I am sure it detracts from the enjoyment of anyone wishing to come to work for JB, and I think that is pretty lame.

Fortunately, the negativity that I see here on APC does NOT extend into the cockpit 99% of the time. Most people with whom I have flown and talked love working here. Was recently on the JS with a 12-year CA and a 1+ year FO. Both were very glad to be here, and neither had apps out anywhere else. Hopefully anyone who is trying to come here see this self-maligning negativity for what it is, a handful of people who are just not able to find happiness in their lives.

Is jetBlue perfect? No, far from it. Is our contract great? Nope. Needs some work, and hopefully we will be seeing some LOAs soon. But overall, I am very satisfied with having a job where I get pretty darn good pay for not ever having to work. #winning!!
I'll know whether I should get my apps out to UAL after April 10th......

Hint- Hopefully It means I can go to UAL and keep my longevity.
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Old 03-11-2019, 11:07 AM
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I'll know whether I should get my apps out to UAL after April 10th......

Hint- Hopefully It means I can go to UAL and keep my longevity.
I seriously doubt that announcement has anything to do with a merger, but I guess we will see.
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Old 03-11-2019, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot View Post
disenchantMINT is just an angry guy. If anyone seems happy or neutral, he attacks. Its a sign of immaturity.
B6 is its own worst enemy-hopefully we're bought or the BOD is replaced.
It is angry and immature to suggest that we "try to make things better here instead" of settling for mediocrity?

Please take your Ford & Harrison talking points elsewhere. I'd like this to be a better place to work for anyone who gets stuck here. Apparently that triggers you.
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