The TA is finally here
06-26-2018 | 08:04 AM
#182
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The TA is finally here
One of the first things I looked up in the TA is if they fixed the AM/PM bidding for reserves. They now have 4 "silos" that can be bid for with seniority
Silo RAP start window
(Base local time)
A 01:00-06:59
B 07:00-11:59
C 12:00-16:59
D 17:00-22:00
HOWEVER, it also states: "RAP start times within a silo shall be awarded in seniority order beginning with the earliest RAP start time."
It appears that people with the earlier RAP start times would still get called first for short call-outs and, thus, the most senior guy within the silo is the guy to get called first! (legality permitting)
This is something I harped on in every survey. I can't see a benefit for the company in having it written this way, so why on earth was this not fixed??
Also, I don't see any language on how the required numbers for each silo should be determined. They wouldn't be able to give us a RAP start time before 1000 on the first day but you could still have 5 days of reserve left and they put you on a RAP with a start time of 0300 while everyone with less days start later than you (and you frequently get an early assignment in this situation.)
I find it hard to keep reading the TA after seeing the highlights and seeing this. That, and the pay cut I'll take initially with losing PTO sellback (E190). I'm still going to try to read the whole thing but I dunno....
Silo RAP start window
(Base local time)
A 01:00-06:59
B 07:00-11:59
C 12:00-16:59
D 17:00-22:00
HOWEVER, it also states: "RAP start times within a silo shall be awarded in seniority order beginning with the earliest RAP start time."
It appears that people with the earlier RAP start times would still get called first for short call-outs and, thus, the most senior guy within the silo is the guy to get called first! (legality permitting)
This is something I harped on in every survey. I can't see a benefit for the company in having it written this way, so why on earth was this not fixed??
Also, I don't see any language on how the required numbers for each silo should be determined. They wouldn't be able to give us a RAP start time before 1000 on the first day but you could still have 5 days of reserve left and they put you on a RAP with a start time of 0300 while everyone with less days start later than you (and you frequently get an early assignment in this situation.)
I find it hard to keep reading the TA after seeing the highlights and seeing this. That, and the pay cut I'll take initially with losing PTO sellback (E190). I'm still going to try to read the whole thing but I dunno....
I don’t think that is correct.
In fact senior guys within the same days available and silo can bypass to the junior pilot. SCR only.
2 pilots bid for silo B. There are multiple start times within silo B.
The senior pilot gets awarded the 0800 RAP
The junior guy gets awarded the 0900 RAP
3 day pops up at 1115
Two guys in silo B with 3 days available.
Senior guy can bypass to junior guy.
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06-26-2018 | 08:34 AM
#183
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I don’t think that is correct.
In fact senior guys within the same days available and silo can bypass to the junior pilot. SCR only.
2 pilots bid for silo B. There are multiple start times within silo B.
The senior pilot gets awarded the 0800 RAP
The junior guy gets awarded the 0900 RAP
3 day pops up at 1115
Two guys in silo B with 3 days available.
Senior guy can bypass to junior guy.
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In fact senior guys within the same days available and silo can bypass to the junior pilot. SCR only.
2 pilots bid for silo B. There are multiple start times within silo B.
The senior pilot gets awarded the 0800 RAP
The junior guy gets awarded the 0900 RAP
3 day pops up at 1115
Two guys in silo B with 3 days available.
Senior guy can bypass to junior guy.
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Short Call Reserve Pairing Assignment Pass for Next Day Assignments
On each Short Call Reserve day, a Short Call Reserve (excluding RSA
Reserve) may elect to pass using FLiCA, prior to the start of the Next Day
Reserve assignment process. The Company shall grant Short Call Reserve
pass requests in seniority order when either:
i. Two (2) or more Pilots have equal number of Reserve days during
the Next Day Reserve assignment process; or
ii. Two (2) or more Pilots have equal number of Reserve days and the
same RAP start time for Pairing assignments made after the DRO
closes for the next day.
06-26-2018 | 08:54 AM
#184
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Furthermore, Long Call Reserves, who would now be the primary recipients of Next Day Assignments, would have no "pass" option. These assignments would be based on who has the least amount of credit on the month. Only when two pilots have the same amount of credit would the senior guy not get called.
06-26-2018 | 08:55 AM
#185
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Four years might be stretching it, I'll go with 18 months-2 years. A loss of almost 300k-500k just in not having the 15% DC for an additional two years (depending on your age and income obviously). Not saying anyone should vote yes/no based on just that. I'm still reading and deciding.
06-26-2018 | 09:11 AM
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Stick 5% of your income that you no longer have to match into a large growth mutual fund and you'll make out pretty good down the road.
06-26-2018 | 09:15 AM
#187
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From: Airbus Capt
06-26-2018 | 09:24 AM
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06-26-2018 | 09:29 AM
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06-26-2018 | 09:33 AM
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