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Old 06-24-2018, 03:43 PM
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For reserves I would have like to have seen a "no pairing finishing after 1700 on your last day" provision, give it to a 2-day pilot.


I don't know if I like the "physical standards" section. The other day somebody yelled out "you're a fat pilot". I assume it was with a ph?

Looking forward to the road shows. Will our dues pay for a printed copy or am I going to Kinkos?
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Old 06-24-2018, 03:45 PM
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I’ll have to look into UAL system but as far as days off it is better than UAL(12,13), American(12,13), spirit (12,13) Alaska 12, Hawaiian(12), dal is equal at (13,14) and SW blows everyone away at (14,15)


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Actually it is 15,15 days off for SWA, they limit workdays to 16 in 31 and 15 in 30.
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Old 06-24-2018, 04:05 PM
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The implementation schedule is unacceptable without some sort of monetary incentive.
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Old 06-24-2018, 04:09 PM
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I agree, the implementation schedule is the worst part of the whole thing. I think, so far.
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Old 06-24-2018, 04:34 PM
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It seems like (without considering the effect of new work rules), E190 guys that stay around 70 hours a month and are stingy with their PTO will take a pay cut in the first year. Going from annually selling 108+ PTO hours at premium pay to 72 hours at straight pay... Seems like the 6.8% raise in the first year won't make up for that lost pay. Maybe my math is wrong... and my math has gotten pretty rusty since school...
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Old 06-24-2018, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by dontsurf View Post
here's a question that i'm sure someone can answer now.

yesterday someone (and he claimed to know what he was talking about, how he knows the guys in the mec, etc. so i believed him) told me that if we vote for this contract, the pay rates will be retroactive to when the aip was signed, which i see was may 11th.

does anyone think this is true? i don't see anything about that anywhere in the highlights, or mentioned anywhere. they talk about "DOS", date of signing. does that mean when the aip was signed, or when a contract passes a vote of the pilots?
From what I’ve been told, and read, DOS refers to the date that the pilot group votes to approve the TA and the MEC chair signs it. There will be no back pay.
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Old 06-24-2018, 05:17 PM
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Really disappointed in health care cost and benefits. They seem to have gotten worse in some ways and marginally better in others.
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Old 06-24-2018, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by hilltopflyer View Post
Really disappointed in health care cost and benefits. They seem to have gotten worse in some ways and marginally better in others.

This and the implementation schedule. I found marginal differences in healthcare which is a complete freaking joke.
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Old 06-24-2018, 05:55 PM
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What is better besides pay rates and average daily credit, reserves, oh ya I forgot anything that might be good is also delayed until 12/19. All this for measly pay advance.
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