I already stated earlier that I have no heartache with an overall no vote. I will continue as my union has instructed me. Those are items you want fixed. I'm glad you bring such things to light.

 

I am thankful.


There are too many Bozos (and his comrades) who have ulterior motives for wanting this passed. One of these guys is a confirmed company staff pilot who has benefited from special treatment for a long time now. These guys don't mind screwing over everyone else for sub-incremental improvements because they mostly represent special cases of high seniority or living in base. The rest of us will work just as hard, or harder, yet still make less than SWA while operating under a contract with dangerous provisions.





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So you're taking crumbs... how is that not a regional mentality? How isn't this the token definition of "rationalization"?



Try to break out of yourself for a second... throw in the average Delta or SWA pilot... would they agree with you?



I'm not trying to insult you... I am merely trying to point out that the frog in the beaker doesn't notice the temperature being gradually increased. We're largely biased to what we know through our anecdotal experience. Company management knows this, which is why they want to "keep everyone equal". If you clean airplanes, for example, you tend to forget you are a pilot and not a janitor. It's all a mind-f%ck and in essence, you are rationalizing acceptance of a substandard/dangerous contract.


The Railway Labor Act Simplified


This communique is for entertainment purposes only. It does not implicitly or explicitly acknowledge employment with any air carrier nor is any relationship implied. This communique does not represent the opinions or policies of ALPA or JB ALPA and does not represent the collective pilot group, ALPA, nor does it imply collective bargaining, advocacy, or workforce actions intended to disrupt operations.

 

I understand and I don't take offense what so ever.

I commute on Delta a lot, I have talked to a few of their pilots including a good buddy of mine that is there. For the most part what they have seen they are "impressed" with the things we have in our TA. And they commend US on fighting for as long as we have.
I'm thankful to have outside eyes looking in. Not just looking through the lens of a regional or BJ pilot.
I think there are a lot of carrots being dangled in front of us in this contract that I look beyond (CSeries) to make my decision.

I do not clean, never have or will. I do what is necessary to do my job only.

 

They need to read the actual contract and not just take bullet points. I just told some American guys about it and they too were impressed. Then I let them read the printout and they showed me lots of things that are really bad. American guys are entertaining the idea of getting ALPA because their existing union wasn't good enough. Their existing contract is an example of the dangers of accepting a sub-par contract. If we want to be industry-equivalent or leading, we should recognize there are many red flags in this contract and Vote NO, rewrite parts of it, then Vote Yes to TA 2.0. I recognize there are some scope wins but many of the wins are still cost neutral or simply industry average elsewhere (e.g. scope). The apologists and company-brownnosers told me to wait to read the language. I have, and I've read every page with extreme attention. This contract is dangerous at worst and barely industry average to Spirit/Frontier/Alaska at best. It still doesn't beat SWA.



The Railway Labor Act Simplified



This communique is for entertainment purposes only. It does not implicitly or explicitly acknowledge employment with any air carrier nor is any relationship implied. This communique does not represent the opinions or policies of ALPA or JB ALPA and does not represent the collective pilot group, ALPA, nor does it imply collective bargaining, advocacy, or workforce actions intended to disrupt operations.

 

Please, convince me you're a Jetblue pilot, what is 'V Cutoff Speed"....within 5kts, on the 320, or 190?

 

Trick question... it’s not on the gouge. A real Jetblue pilot will not know the answer if it’s not on the gouge.

 

They seem like an entertaining Yin to Queue’s Yang.

 

I will read it all again. And look even closer at the language. Luckily we have almost all month to make as informed decision as possible. Based on current readings and interpretation I'm a yes that being said I'm very open to all input to clarify any misleading language that I missed or misinterpreted.

 

Cool man!!!!