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07-05-2018 | 09:00 AM

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I'm saying this pilot group made a mistake by not voting in a union sooner.

The TA was done about when it should have been. 3 years to do a full contract is about right.

All they did was copy paste 70% of the PEA and FSM. What took so long?

07-05-2018 | 09:03 AM

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Jtrain, softpay and the other experts that think Skywest is about to be painted blue any day now, why did the company roll over on RJ scope but build a fortress around domestic codesharing?

Ok so then are you the expert? What do other contracts codesharing sections look like? Yes we all know what Southwest’s is but what about everyone else?

07-05-2018 | 09:04 AM

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Jtrain, softpay and the other experts that think Skywest is about to be painted blue any day now, why did the company roll over on RJ scope but build a fortress around domestic codesharing?

Jetblue was never gonna do a lot of things until they decided they wanted to do it.

07-05-2018 | 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by PasserOGas

All they did was copy paste 70% of the PEA and FSM. What took so long?

pretty sure that's not how it went... good story though.

07-05-2018 | 09:13 AM

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Jetblue was never gonna do a lot of things until they decided they wanted to do it.

And JetBlue never gives up something it holds sacred. So what did they give up in the scope section and what did they build a fortress around in the scope section?

07-05-2018 | 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by rvr1800

Ok so then are you the expert? What do other contracts codesharing sections look like? Yes we all know what Southwest’s is but what about everyone else?

Well, Southwest IS the model we should be striving for. But, why are you asking me what scope sections say instead of asking yourself why JetBlue rolled over on RJ scope and built a fortress around domestic codesharing?

07-05-2018 | 09:23 AM

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Jetblue was never gonna do a lot of things until they decided they wanted to do it.

Exactly.

Mint was never going to happen. Flying to as much of the Carribean wasn't part of the business plan. The 190's didn't fit the single fleet concept.

RJ's don't make sense until they do. When that happens I want protections.

07-05-2018 | 09:30 AM

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And JetBlue never gives up something it holds sacred. So what did they give up in the scope section and what did they build a fortress around in the scope section?

I dunno man, You'd have to ask Nate, Jeff, or Tommy.

07-05-2018 | 09:38 AM

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I dunno man, You'd have to ask Nate, Jeff, or Tommy.

BS. They don't KNOW what the company truly intends to do. They fought to get the best scope language the company WOULD AGREE TO.

Now, it's up to you, me and the rest of us to understand why the company gave what it gave and built a fortress around certain things.

I'm glad we have RJ language, very glad. Time will tell why they were willing to give that up, but not domestic codeshare.