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Old 07-06-2018 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Softpayman
Explain then how JB makes money off a stand alone carrier like SkyWest-blue operating west coast flights.
By getting them on a JB connecting flight.
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Old 07-06-2018 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Softpayman
Explain then how JB makes money off a stand alone carrier like SkyWest-blue operating west coast flights.
I could, I'm just over the conversation.

But, the short version is think along the lines of how Emirates gains additional revenue and passengers by connecting into JBs network. We would gain additional revenue and passengers (that would fly on another Airline) by connecting into Alaska's (as an example) intra-westcoast network. It wouldn't make sense for JB to do that *IF* we could develop our own intra-westcoast network. We can't anymore due to gate space at the premium airports and west coast competition.

We are trying hard to attract corporate accounts in Boston. Consider a medical sales company that needs to send a rep to a surgeon in Idaho Falls or any number of other mid-sized and smaller west coast cities. We can fly them to SEA or SFO though, and then connect onto Alaska or Moxy (depending on where Moxy deploys their aircraft).

We had always thought we could build our own West coast network or buy VA. Now plan A and B are gone. It's plan C time. I have a feeling they built a fortress around domestic codesharing for a reason.

Time will tell.

On to a new subject.
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Old 07-07-2018 | 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
I could, I'm just over the conversation.

But, the short version is think along the lines of how Emirates gains additional revenue and passengers by connecting into JBs network. We would gain additional revenue and passengers (that would fly on another Airline) by connecting into Alaska's (as an example) intra-westcoast network. It wouldn't make sense for JB to do that *IF* we could develop our own intra-westcoast network. We can't anymore due to gate space at the premium airports and west coast competition.

We are trying hard to attract corporate accounts in Boston. Consider a medical sales company that needs to send a rep to a surgeon in Idaho Falls or any number of other mid-sized and smaller west coast cities. We can fly them to SEA or SFO though, and then connect onto Alaska or Moxy (depending on where Moxy deploys their aircraft).

We had always thought we could build our own West coast network or buy VA. Now plan A and B are gone. It's plan C time. I have a feeling they built a fortress around domestic codesharing for a reason.

Time will tell.

On to a new subject.
But they wouldn’t make as much money so
Why would they do that!!! Oh ya we can’t grow because we sit on our hands while letting every other airline expand till no more room. But we only make pennies on the dollar (still making money with zero risk, and giving customers access to other parts of the country we don’t go to since we won’t grow anywhere besides SDQ) I give up. I voted and have my receipt showing how I voted.
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Old 07-07-2018 | 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by hilltopflyer
But they wouldn’t make as much money so
Why would they do that!!! Oh ya we can’t grow because we sit on our hands while letting every other airline expand till no more room. But we only make pennies on the dollar (still making money with zero risk, and giving customers access to other parts of the country we don’t go to since we won’t grow anywhere besides SDQ) I give up. I voted and have my receipt showing how I voted.
Then you didn’t vote, because the receipt doesn’t show how you voted for confidentiality.
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Old 07-07-2018 | 04:21 AM
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But the screen before it shows how you did and the time is the same as my receipt time. So ya it does show.
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Old 07-07-2018 | 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by hilltopflyer
But the screen before it shows how you did and the time is the same as my receipt time. So ya it does show.


You just contradicted yourself. The receipt doesn’t show it, but the screen before it does. 2 different things. Vote your conscience, you don’t need to broadcast it.
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Old 07-07-2018 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy
By getting them on a JB connecting flight.
Which is good for us.. Yea?
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Old 07-07-2018 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot
Which is good for us.. Yea?
Half as good as growing our own organic west coast network, which is what we SAID we were going to do. They haven't.
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Old 07-07-2018 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot
Which is good for us.. Yea?
Good for making money on our existing network. Not good for disincentivizing investment in future networks. We are still a growth company. If we have a reason not to grow, or to focus growth elsewhere, that isn’t as good as incentivizing mgmt to invest and grow organically in those same markets. I’d rather grow into those markets as we always have, not codeshare into them, from both a pilot and shareholder perspective.
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Old 07-07-2018 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy
Good for making money on our existing network. Not good for disincentivizing investment in future networks. We are still a growth company. If we have a reason not to grow, or to focus growth elsewhere, that isn’t as good as incentivizing mgmt to invest and grow organically in those same markets. I’d rather grow into those markets as we always have, not codeshare into them, from both a pilot and shareholder perspective.
Yeah, but at least we'll be slowing to 7-8 deliveries a year soon. Yay.
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