I agree. I don’t get it. That’s not a knock on frontier it’s just I don’t see the “synergies” of that particular merger.

The frontier route network has evolved into something drastically different than JB’s. If the merger were to happen JB wouldn’t be able to continue a lot of those routes under the JB brand. JB would essentially be dismantling frontier just to gain access to the planes and redeploy them on more traditional JB routes. Wall Street already doesn’t like our growth. That would basically just be adding growth.

A merger with Alaska would make way more sense and personally I think it’s coming if United doesn’t make a play on JB first. My guess is an Alaska codeshare is signed within a year and a merger happens the next time the economy take a dump.


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But do we stay jetblue or become Alaska’s next Virgin sacrifice?

 

I know some people get hung up on a name. It’s emotional and it makes people think their airline won. It makes them think they will do or somehow should do better on the SLI.

Honestly though how could you not choose the JB name to continue. Broad nation wide appeal. Who’s first thought to fly from FLL-JFK is to search the Alaska airlines website. Let’s hope we keep some of the Alaska operations people though.


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Lawsuit 8 months overdue....

JB can’t afford what INDIGO THINKS F9 is worth

 

Jet America (AS still owns the name).

Gup

 

Yeah, because it wasn't clear it was going to take years anyway?

 

I could see many benefits, but my opinion and yours don't matter. What I do know is JB made more than one $Billion+ offer about a year ago.

 

A federal judge will most likely push the company to mediate and settle the dispute. This may push things along much faster for us. Indigo has a lot to lose and may not want the exposure of an unknown outcome from a civil trial. I think ALPA got this one right.

 

Don't completely agree about Frontier, but don't care enough to even talk about it.

Completely agree on Alaska. I think we were absolutely in talks with UAL, but I also believe that those talks broke down and then UAL announced it's big domestic organic expansion plans. Of course they could still merge us and scale back those plans.

Otherwise, or maybe even more likely is a codeshare followed by Alaska merger.

JetBlue name and product should definitely be the surviving corporate face, but any manager in charge of potato farming or catering or CULTure emails or "virtual spares" needs to get fired.

With that said, while Alaska has good operations managers, their overall management as it pertains to pilot negotiations (comp, benefits and scope) is ruthlessly cheap. That's not good either. Not that ours is much better (management). Good news is our new CBA would be the floor of a JCBA.

 

I'm not disagreeing, I was responding to the dude who thought it was a mistake.