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Old 08-29-2018 | 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by hilltopflyer
This next month is going to be terrible. Why anyone has any faith in this company or cba is sad... the first time this new cba has its chance to show the industry leading language it has, it fails miserably.
The company was gonna take the reins on this CBA or no CBA.

What could possibly go wrong with a 8:40 hr block 4leg east coast day?
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Old 08-29-2018 | 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
The company was gonna take the reins on this CBA or no CBA.

What could possibly go wrong with a 8:40 hr block 4leg east coast day?
*5 leg

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Old 08-29-2018 | 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by rvr1800
*5 leg

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This is comical too. How do they think they’re gonna fit 5 legs into a 12.5hr day or less?

October is gonna be an epic irop of biblical proportions without a cloud in the sky.
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Old 08-29-2018 | 03:25 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
This is comical too. How do they think they’re gonna fit 5 legs into a 12.5hr day or less?

October is gonna be an epic irop of biblical proportions without a cloud in the sky.
You got that right. Glad I have vacation.

I’m guessing something like BOS-JFK-IAD-JFK-BUF-BOS. What could go wrong with that??
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Old 08-29-2018 | 04:17 AM
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Wait until the LGB and MCO boys and girls see their pairings....
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Old 08-29-2018 | 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by rvr1800
You got that right. Glad I have vacation.

I’m guessing something like BOS-JFK-IAD-JFK-BUF-BOS. What could go wrong with that??
I would love this! I’ll get paid to not fly more than usual. Good thing I have my emergency assignments all filled up!
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Old 08-29-2018 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
This is comical too. How do they think they’re gonna fit 5 legs into a 12.5hr day or less?

October is gonna be an epic irop of biblical proportions without a cloud in the sky.
You know they will max everything out with very little buffers so they can hire as little as possible. Heck this month I had 3 reserve assignments that will not be legal on September 1st. There is no way they won’t f this up and yet nobody will be held responsible.
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Old 08-30-2018 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18
They never said industry leading pairings.

They said industry leading paring language. Which it is.

The reality is the company was taking over the pairing build with or without the CBA. We secured protections in the cba we wouldn’t have otherwise.


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Hmmm. We had this neat thing negotiated, called a CBA. You'd think they would have maybe addressed this issue with some industry standard (some have, some don't) language, like pilots will CONTINUE to build the pairings - just like they have been.

Ya know, when all this "Industry leading pairing language" malarky was being thrown irresponsibly around, I pretty much assumed it meant that we were re-assuming the responsibility of building the pairings ourselves.

Without that ability, the language is meaningless and worthless. Putting extreme outer boundaries on the ********y things ********y people can do to us by treating us like ****** is not exactly something to celebrate as "industry-leading".

AND YES: I did emphasize that pilots building pairings was one of my top priorities in all surveys and communications with reps.

As a life-long union member, I am sorry to say that ALPA totally screwed the pooch on this issue.
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Old 08-30-2018 | 03:47 PM
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Name 3 airlines that let pilots build the Pairings. I’ll wait.


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Old 08-30-2018 | 05:00 PM
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Glad I voted No for this horrible contract. 78% are to blame for their RJ mentality and defeatism.
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